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    Dec 2, 2006, 01:36 PM
    220 to 110
    I'm wanting to run a 110 outlet off my 220 serface unit how do I go about doing this?:confused:
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    Dec 3, 2006, 07:05 AM
    Without knowing more detail , need to do some guessing here.

    Sounds like either a dryer or range surface mounted receptacle.

    If your planning to take off 120 volt 15 or 20 amp outlet from a 30 or 40 amp 240 volt outlet, without changing the breaker, this cannot be done, as the new outlet will not be protected properly.

    What exactly do you have and are trying to do?
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    Dec 3, 2006, 06:55 PM
    I want to run a 120 outlet off my 220 surface unit (stove).
    I have a island in the middle of my kitchen (this is where my surface unit is) and it doesn't have a receptacle on it. This is very inconvenient. :(
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    Dec 3, 2006, 09:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by joey b
    I'm wanting to run a 110 outlet off of my 220 serface unit how do I go about doing this?:confused:
    Simply pick up one leg of the feed. There are 2 hots and a ground. Each hot is a separate
    Leg of 110 voltage.
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    Dec 3, 2006, 09:49 PM
    If the stove top has 4 wire service, it is easy enough to do, the neutral, ground, and either hot. However, as tkrussel pointed out, a 40 amp breaker doesn't give you much protection, and such an add on may not meet code. I know our range has a timed outlet on it, and assume it met code in 1970 when it was installed. I don't know if it has any additional protection. I don't know if adding a fuse would meet code or not. Not all easy, workable solutions are good ideas.
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    Dec 4, 2006, 03:51 AM
    Doing this is not as simple as sollon implies. You need to remove the surface mount outlet, and replace it with a junction box, remount and wire the surface mount outlet next to the junction box, then come out of the junction box to go to a circuit breaker or fuse that labman mentions.

    The wiring inside the range outlet is two hots and a neutral, not a ground, if it is a typical three wire oultet. If it is a four wire,then it has a neutral AND a ground.

    You need to feed the circuit breaker off o one of the hot wires, and the neutral. If the cable feeding the range is only three wire, then you must stop and cannot continue, as the outlet also needs a ground wire, you can only continue if the range outlet and cable is four wire.

    If so, then feed the breaker with the three wires, hot, neutral, and ground. Then continue onto the new 120 volt outlet.

    It will be much more safer to install a new 120 volt 20 amp cable from your panel for your new outlet, or tap inti a nearby outlet.

    The outlets that were on ranges are protected by a 15 or 20 amp fuse permanently wired inside the range, so the outlet is protected properly.
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    Apr 6, 2008, 11:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by joey b
    I'm wanting to run a 110 outlet off of my 220 serface unit how do I go about doing this?:confused:
    220 TO 110 HOW?
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    Apr 6, 2008, 11:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ali malak
    220 TO 110 HOW?
    Can you re-phrase the question? This time with some detail.

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