[markous1]

Any old timers out there

Hello guys I have been plumbing for about 11 years. Have installed hundres of pan liners but never a lead one. This guy called me up and wants a lead one. Crazy right! But that is what he wants. Have looked on the internet and cannot find anything about installing them apart from making it up outside the shower first. But I do not know what to do about the corners, as I'm pretty sure I won't be able to fold the lead like a membraine one . Any help would be appreciated as normally I would have told the guy to find someone who has done a few , but I have been out of work for a while now and really need the money.

Thanks

Mark

[letmetellu]

To start you need to find a sheet of four pound sheet lead. It needs to be, in size the area of the shower plus about eight inches added to all four sides.

To tell you in easy terms try this, take an 81/2 x 11 sheet of paper, bent up four inches on one side now do the same on the adjecent corner. Now fold the corner from where the two folds meet to the corner of the paper. Fold the two sides up and you will have this tab sticking out on a 45 degree angle, fold it around the corner. Now do the other three corners the same way.

When you do the lead you should make the turned up sides about eight inches high.

Now lay it over you drain and make a hole in the center of the drain hole, only make this hole the size of the draind pipe and then finish putting your doubloe seepage drain on top of that.

I hope you can understand how I told you... but if you have done plastic you should be able to figure it out.

[ballengerb1]

I think there is a point where a pro needs to educate the buyer. For example, cars were once painted by brush. Would a body shop be willing to paint a car now by brush, no way. Almost any other liner is superior to lead so why go backwords in time and do something you do not even know how to do. I have been doing baths on and off since 1966, I would never consider doing a lead liner, nor copper for that matter. Ask him why, you may hear something like hios grandpa was a plumber and said they were the best. Back to you

[speedball1]

Bob nailed it! Lead or copper shower pans are out and plastic's in. The last time I panned a shower in lead was over 30 years ago Your customer isn't a plumber and isn't aware of the problems that a lead pan will give him over the years. Try to talk him into using Compaseal.
But ifyou can't you pan a lead shower exactly the same way you pan a plastic one. The only difference is the material. Good luck, Tom

[johnson374]

Measure shower floor and tranfer to lead pan.
Cutout the corners then install the pan.
Now use lead soilder rods to soilder the corners back together.
Note: Make sure lead pan corners are cleaned with wire brush so when you soilder them the soilder will stick.

[speedball1]

Hi Johnson and Welcome to The Plumbing Page. At AskMeHelpDesk.com. You're responding to a 2 year old dead thread . Look in then upper left hand corner of the first post form the date in the first post before you post, Thanks,
Sorry Johnson but you're 20 years out of date. Lead and copper pans are out. And bye the way you don't cut the corners. You fold then to make a seamless corner. Plastic's in. Both Blue Compaseal and manufactured plastic are used today. The last time I formed a shower pan out of sheet lead was back in 1978. And you don't solder sheet lead you wipe a joint on them. But we thank you for your input, Regards, Tom