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    Jan 17, 2010, 07:34 AM
    George W. Bush
    Hello:

    I'm no longer going to refer to him as the dufus. No matter how much I disagree with his policies, I'm liking him as a man a lot more recently.

    Vice? Not so much. I wonder what would have happened if Bush wouldn't have given vice so much power. I'll bet things would be a lot different.

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    Jan 17, 2010, 08:13 AM

    As far as I can see, the real problem was that warmongering two-faced Rummsfeld. Bush was weak, and only grew a spine after he had been in the job for a while.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tokugawa View Post
    As far as I can see, the real problem was that warmongering two-faced Rummsfeld. Bush was weak, and only grew a spine after he had been in the job for a while.
    I'll agree Rumbum was a major liability to W. His (W's) inability to work on camera was another.

    I also think the rookie that's in office now is going to make W look better and better as time goes on.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 01:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
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    I also think the rookie that's in office now is going to make W look better and better as time goes on.
    I agree with that. I've said for a long time that GW will look better in retrospect than when in office.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 01:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    I agree with that. I've said for a long time that GW will look better in retrospect than when in office.
    Time will tell. The NY Slander certainly won't.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 01:57 PM

    He was such a poor speaker
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    Jan 17, 2010, 02:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post

    I also think the rookie that's in office now is going to make W look better and better as time goes on.
    Nothing is going to make Bush look better or justify his actions. A president is responsible for the acts of his administration you can't pass the buck to Cheney or Rummsfeld even though they may have been the power behind the throne and the acts perpetrated during that era. You have to prefer a person like Obama to cowboy joe, stumble bum Bush. He has shown that he takes considered decisions and that has to be worth a lot
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    Jan 17, 2010, 03:36 PM

    I said here previously I liked the fact that the guy was able to laugh at himself. It tells a lot about a man who can laugh at his own expense. I have also been told by a very close friend who had first hand encounters (he was in his security detail through NSW Police) with him that he was always very polite and indeed friendly on his visits down under here.

    Other than that he still totally sucks as a Pres and has a lot of blood on his hands for the current messes we find ourselves in.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 04:23 PM

    History will show Bush a lot different than many views tainted by polictical opinions today.

    And personally sorry I would take bozo the clown to Obama and his socialist views
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    Jan 17, 2010, 07:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    History will show Bush alot different than many views tainted by polictical opinions today.

    And personally sorry I would take bozo the clown to Obama and his socialist views
    What a Father and not on the liberal side of politics your people must love your hard line attitude
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    Jan 17, 2010, 07:21 PM

    Well they love the fact that I don't like higher taxes and unwatned government control of the public.

    And of course those who don't consider thierself victims don't need a government to save them from anyone.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 07:30 PM
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    well they love the fact that I don't like higher taxes and unwatned government control of the public.
    I admit I'm partial to politicians that actually abide by the rules they were elected under.
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    Jan 17, 2010, 10:10 PM

    G.W is weak and gulible,nothing more. I have no doubt whatsoever that had Barrack been President in2001, Osama's head would currently be on dislpay at the National Museum of Crime and Punishment.

    Of course, should Obama deliver this treat, (to be frank, I think he is more committed than Bush EVER was.) He will be denounced as an unconstituinal douche (like Regan).
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    Jan 18, 2010, 06:55 AM
    History will show Bush a lot different than many views tainted by polictical opinions today.
    I have always contended that ,like Truman ,history with the sobering reflection of time ,will look kinder on President Bush than his contemporaries. As is already evident ;the Bush doctrine will survive inter-Presidencies as a template to deal with the war against jihadistan .

    Ex ;what brought about this catharsis ? Was it the fact that he has continued to endure the barbs of the new bosses without comment ? Or was it the fact that the President picked him to take a lead role in the Haiti relief ? Imagine that ;the so called bumbler ,bungler ,and incompetent ,leader of the Katrina response was selected to represent the nation by a President of the opposing party to help coordinate the nation's relief effort to Haiti.
    [ watch how the world reacts... already al Jazeera is running headlines that we are setting up a "Green Zone " in Haiti for the purpose of occupation.
    Who Will Lead Haiti's Security? | CommonDreams.org]

    Oh wait ;I get it ,it's because he objected to Rush Limbaugh's over the top comments about President Obama's Haiti response.
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    Jan 18, 2010, 07:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ex ;what brought about this catharsis ?
    Hello again, tom:

    No, I just feel sorry for him, because he IS a nice guy who was weak and let others ruin his presidency. THAT presidency, was, still is, and will ALWAYS be the worst presidency ever.

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    Jan 18, 2010, 03:59 PM

    Excon's thread reminds me of the old saying "A popular politician is someone who has left office years ago." Definitely true with most unpopular presidents.
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    Jan 18, 2010, 04:05 PM

    I'm truly going to relish watching "The One" start taking the same flak Mr. Bush did from the press. It's starting already.
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    Jan 18, 2010, 04:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tokugawa View Post
    G.W is weak and gulible,nothing more. I have no doubt whatsoever that had Barrack been President in2001, Osama's head would currently be on dislpay at the National Museum of Crime and Punishment.

    Of course, should Obama deliver this treat, (to be frank, I think he is more commited than Bush EVER was.) He will be denounced as an unconstituinal douche (like Regan).
    Can I have some of what your smoking?
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    Jan 18, 2010, 04:48 PM
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    Can I have some of what your smoking?
    It's over here

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ey-434467.html
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    Jan 18, 2010, 05:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Nothing is going to make Bush look better or justify his actions. A president is responsible for the acts of his administration you can't pass the buck to Cheney or Rummsfeld even though they may have been the power behind the throne and the acts perpetrated during that era. You have to prefer a person like Obama to cowboy joe, stumble bum Bush. He has shown that he takes considered decisions and that has to be worth a lot
    Is it "considered decisions" or the fact that he can't make up his mind?

    Although, on consideration, he DID jump on that cop vs professor thing with both feet didn't he?

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