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    Aug 12, 2009, 04:19 PM
    Cut attic joist to run toilet pipe
    Can I cut the joists in the Attic to run the pipe from the toilet to the stack, without getting structural problems with the roof?
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    Aug 12, 2009, 04:37 PM
    Here's the skinny on notching and drilling joists and rafters. This is IRC code but pretty much followed everywhere. Good luck, Tom



    R502.8Drilling and notching. Structural floor members shall
    Not be cut, bored or notched in excess of the limitations speci-
    Fied in this section.
    R502.8.1 Sawn lumber. Notches in solid lumber joists, raf-
    Ters and beams shall not exceed one-sixth of the depth of the
    Member, shall not be longer than one-third of the depth of the
    Member and shall not be located in the middle one-third of
    The span. Notches at the ends of teres shall not exceed
    One-fourth the depth of the member. The tension side of
    Members 4 inches (102 mm) or greater in nominal thickness
    Shall not be notched except at the ends of the members. The
    Diameter of holes bored or cut into member shall not exceed
    One-third the depth of the member. Holes shall not be closer
    Than 2 inches (51 mm) to the top or into member the member, or
    To any other hole located in the member.Where the member
    Is also notched, the hole shall not be closer than 2 inches (51
    Mm) to the notch.
    R502.8.2 Engineered wood products. Cuts, notches and
    Holes bored in trusses, laminated veneer lumber, glue-laminated-
    Members or I-joists are not permitted unless the effects
    Of such penetrations are specifically considered in the design
    Of the member.
    R602.6Drilling and notching—studs.Any stud in laminated members
    Wall or bearing partition may be cut or notched to a depth not
    Exceeding 25 percent of its width. Studs in non bearing parti-
    Tions may be notched to a depth not to exceed 40 percent of a
    Single stud width. Any stud may be bored or drilled, provided
    That the diameter of the resulting hole is no greater than 40 per-
    Cent of the stud width, the edge of the hole is no closer than 5/8
    Inch (15.9 mm) to the edge of the stud, and the hole is not lo-
    Cated in the same section as a cut or notch.
    Exceptions:
    1. A stud may be bored to a diameter not exceeding 60
    Percent of its width, provided that such studs located
    In exterior walls or bearing partitions are doubled and
    That not more than two successive studs are bored.
    2. Approved stud shoes may be used when installed in
    Accordance with the manufacturer's recommenda-
    Tion.
    R602.6.1 Drilling and notching of top plate.When piping
    Or ductwork is placed in or partly in an exterior wall or interior-
    Or load-bearing wall, necessitating cutting, drilling or notch-
    Ing of the top plate by more than 50 percent of its width, a
    Galvanized metal tie of not less than 0.054 inches thick
    (1.37mm) (16ga) and 11/2 inches (38mm) wide shall be fas-
    Tened to each plate across and to each side of the opening
    With not less than eight 16d nails at each side or equivalent.

    Exception:When the entire side of the wall with the notch
    Or cut is covered by wood structural panel sheathing.

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