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    #21

    Jul 1, 2009, 06:58 PM
    Should I replace the 1.5 pipe to 1.25 instead, just wondering you guys would know way better then me!!
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    #22

    Jul 1, 2009, 06:59 PM
    DMC... Growler is talking about something else here... YOUR WORK IS FINE. The old work is messed up!


    Growler...

    If you are talking about the fernco coupling choking down from 1.5" PVC to 1.5" copper (I'd bet you... even though the pics. Aren't clear on that).. no I see no problem... ;)

    How about the 1.5" galvanized piping going straight into the PVC pipe? I mean... if you want to get nitty/gritty here... huh? How is it that you missed that one..?

    The fact is that he just posted the picture and he made it all work... WITHOUT IT LEAKING. Seems to me he did pretty good...

    You are, as usual, however, correct in the fact that this should all be repiped so that the galvanized piping connects properly to the PVC and while he is at it he should get rid of the tubular trap. In my area these are illegal nowadays. He should pipe this all up solid PVC.

    For now, however...he did great and until he remodels in the future...I would leave it alone!! DMC should be aware that when he has a free Saturday he can repipe this all correctly using shielded transition clamps.. see image. These are available at all home supply stores.

    Now...how about the fact that there are no shutoffs below this sink...? What about that ground wire...I don't see a grounding clamp...?? Any thoughts...??

    I still wonder what is below the fernco coupling... huh?

    Thanks...

    MARK
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    Jul 1, 2009, 07:17 PM
    Actually there is a hot and cold water shutoff behind the bucket in the pictures I listed, and I could most definitely can replace the shielded transition clamps this Saturday.

    I think the wire was use to hold up the cold water shutoff valve in the old vanity, I don't know it's there?

    The house is almost 100 years old and needs a lot of updating. But I like most just do the best I can when I can. Still thanks for pointing stuff out like that I'm no plumbing expert and all the information I can use will save me and my family a ton a dough.

    Thanks again to all
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    Jul 1, 2009, 07:34 PM
    If you are talking about the fernco coupling choking down from 1.5" PVC to 1.5" copper (I'd bet you... even though the pics. Aren't clear on that).. no I see no problem... ;)
    No, I'm fairly certain it's 1-1/4" galvanized pipe.


    How about the 1.5" galvanized piping going straight into the PVC pipe? I mean... if you want to get nitty/gritty here... huh? How is it that you missed that one..?
    Dude, make up your mind -- Is it galvanized piping or is it copper DWV piping?

    And I didn't miss it -- I assumed it was a mock-up.

    The fact is that he just posted the picture and he made it all work... WITHOUT IT LEAKING. Seems to me he did pretty good...
    And he telescoped 1-1/2" plastic into 1-1/4" galvanized piping.

    Jeebus, Mark, this is so wrong on so many levels.

    You seriously approve of this repair?

    You are, as usual, however, correct in the fact that this should all be repiped so that the galvanized piping connects properly to the PVC and while he is at it he should get rid of the tubular trap. In my area these are illegal nowadays. He should pipe this all up solid PVC.
    Actually, he could have done this correctly if he'd saved the pieces he cut out and reassembled the 1-1/4" Durham San-Tee and cut off bits with K-150 shielded couplings.

    Now...how about the fact that there are no shutoffs below this sink...? What about that ground wire...I don't see a grounding clamp...?? Any thoughts...??? Hmmmmm...??
    Y'know, Mark, you seriously need to chill out.
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    Jul 1, 2009, 07:52 PM

    All the different replys will work fine .

    Great job on fixing it DMC!!

    My thought would be to remove the 2 or 3 screws that hold the vanity to the wall and move it a few inches to get it to fit proper with the regular p trap.

    Flexible tailpiece in the horizontal run is a place for the soap and hair to build up.

    These are just a few thoughts .Good luck with all

    1 -1/2 inch p-trap has a little more room to line up than the 1 -1/4
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    Jul 1, 2009, 08:26 PM
    Growler, you said, " Dude, make up your mind -- Is it galvanized piping or is it copper DWV piping?"

    I was referring to the WASTE for the copper. I was referring to the VENT for the galvanized! So you missed quite a bit really!

    HE DIDN'T DO ANY OF THE WORK... except the ptrap and flexible tailpiece... or did you forget to read the original posts by DMC..?

    Funny that you would tell me to chill... seems to me you are the one with the stiff pole up his tookus making a big deal of the entire plumbing system under the sink when all this guy wanted was some help with realigning the trap to the sink.

    Grow your hair again Growler... ;) Seems to me you need to return to the good ol' days and relax a bit...
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    Jul 1, 2009, 08:35 PM

    Oh, well, it is 11:34 PM in Boston and Mark is still in fighting mood... :D:D:D
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    #28

    Jul 2, 2009, 05:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by iamgrowler View Post
    You don't see a problem with him telescoping 1-1/2" into 1-1/4"?
    Are my old eyes playing tricks again or has Growler got it backwards?
    I see a 1 1/4" trap connected to a 1 1/2" stubout. Growler, What did you see that I didn't? Regards, Tom
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    #29

    Jul 2, 2009, 06:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Are my old eyes playing tricks again or has Growler got it backwards?
    I see a 1 1/4" trap connected to a 1 1/2" stubout. Growler, What did you see that I didn't? Regards, Tom
    I'm talking about the 1-1/2" Sanitary Tee telescoped into the 1-1/4" galvanized drain, Tom.

    And now that I'm looking closer at the photos, I'm thinking that isn't even a Sanitary Tee. I don't see the telltale bulge at the bottom of the inlet in any of the photos, my guess would be a Vent Tee.

    I was referring to the WASTE for the copper. I was referring to the VENT for the galvanized! So you missed quite a bit really!
    I didn't miss anything, Mark -- The drain is 1-1/4" galvanized.

    Look again at the first photo in post #17.

    Seriously -- When was the last time you saw an 1-1/2" copper DWV drain combined with an 1-1/4" galvanized vent in a 100 year old home?
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    Jul 2, 2009, 10:25 AM
    I see the galvanized peeking out from behind the bucket now (first photo)... but I didn't see it earlier!

    In my area we have always run 1.5" copper pipe to all lavatories and then they reduced to 1.25" galvanized or copper pipes (until PVC). They almost never ran all galvanized for waste lines so I was pretty darn sure that was copper. Galvanized pipes are almost exclusively for vents here... why we can reuse them on occasion.

    Anway, as I stated, it is all old work... so although a good idea to replace this stuff in the future I did not bother to address more than what the poster worked on! Guess we can only do so much some days...

    In the end, however, I'm glad you brought it up as now DMC can address this in the future... ;)

    I SIMPLY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WERE COMING FROM WHEN HE HAD ONLY INSTALLED A TRAP AND CONNECTOR.

    Thanks...

    MARK
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    #31

    Jul 2, 2009, 10:43 AM

    Where is your angle stops ?
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    #32

    Jul 2, 2009, 10:49 AM
    And I can't believe this thread has dragged on for four pages. He's got his trap hooked up with no leaks. Case closed!! Tom
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    Jul 2, 2009, 01:43 PM
    Milo... His angle stops are behind the bucket... as posted at post #23... ;)

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