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    #41

    Apr 14, 2009, 03:44 PM
    10 or 15 years ago, I would have believed the cop without much thought, but since then I have heard about so many wrongful convictions, including Donald Marshall, David Millgaard, Stephen Truscott, Guy Paul Morin, Anthony Haaynemeyer, Tom Stophonow, Bill Mullins-Johnson, Robert Baltovich among many others and I have seen from personal experience that there is a lot of police corruption. So now I would believe the prisoner more. About 5 years ago I had a dispute with a neighbor who was piling junk on my property wall, the situation escalated where he stole a property line marker, threatened to physically harm my mother and physically assaulted me on the street. When I called the police to have him charged, the officers accused me of starting it and changing my story and said if I didn't drop the matter, they would get the guy's neighbor to say that I started it! Luckily, I took him to small claims court and won a two thousand dollar settlement. You can't blame people for not trusting law enforment and the judicial system these days.
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    #42

    Apr 14, 2009, 08:38 PM
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    excon agrees: They look all nice in their uniforms, but they can't hide who they are. .[/QUOTE]



    Love you, Excon, but got to disagree with the word "all." You want to say they all look nice... and some can't hide who they are. Fine. But not all. Not by a long shot.

    If someone said "all excon's" do this or that, you would object.

    I object!
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    #43

    Apr 16, 2009, 08:34 PM

    I'd believe the prisoner to begin with. Then investigate and take steps as necessary according to the findings. It may not happen often but I don't think it should ever happen.
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    #44

    Apr 19, 2009, 02:45 PM

    I believe anything is possible and of course cops are going stick up for one another. Where I live the cops saying "is we all bleed blue". Most cops think they are above the law anyway.

    I remember when my cousin was in jail he used to always be put on lock down. My family use to always asked him why when we went to visit him. He told us that a CO in at the jail wanted to sleep with him but he didn't. When he turned her down she threaten to make his time in there a living hell and she follow through on her threats. I believed him because we went to visit him she would watch us closely. However he gave in to her and things turned around. Some of the other CO's knew but pretending they didn't. When he did got out he lived with and off her for a short time until he got on his feet.
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    #45

    Apr 20, 2009, 12:19 AM

    Id believe the prisoner seen to many cops mistreat and beat human beings up savagely like animals for no reason, 4,5,6 cops @ a time beating on one person, come on. Police are often to aggressive and think they own the world, with ego's that shot straight through the stratosphere.
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    #46

    Apr 20, 2009, 06:29 AM

    Hello again,

    I'm not going to count, but it looks like MORE of us believe that the cop WOULD assault a handcuffed prisoner.

    I think there's a message there... What do you think it is?

    excon
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    #47

    Apr 20, 2009, 07:28 AM

    More people on the receiving end of law enforcement post than people on the giving end?
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    #48

    Apr 20, 2009, 07:41 AM

    Since I have seen many instances of police brutality,I go with the victim.

    I was a protester in the late 60's and 70's and I saw people getting billy clubs to the head for sitting down.

    I have witnessed it many times in my adult life as well.

    I lived in a small town where the force was run by the mob and the judge and the whole crew were corrupt.

    I have been arrested for defending a woman who was assaulted.By a cop!
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    #49

    Apr 20, 2009, 07:41 AM
    I never been arrested but I see the cops take avantage of their position all the time.

    Earlier on in the year a man claimed that 2 cops arrested him and while he was handcuffs they shoved some type of antenna up his rectum. Arresting officers deny it but his hospital records back up his claim. They even have the cops and him on camera and a few eye witnesses. The cops were placed on desk duty until the outcome of the trial.
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    #50

    Apr 20, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by artlady View Post
    l.
    I have been arrested for defending a woman who was assaulted.By a cop!
    Your one tough cookie!
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    #51

    Apr 20, 2009, 08:55 AM

    excon agrees: A happy 420 to you on this most glorious of days, 4-20. Can you guess what I'm going to be doing at 4:20 this afternoon?
    I'm guessing the same as everyday at that time:)

    My son is fond of telling me *Mom,I always seem to look at the clock when its 4:20,I wonder what that means* Duh!
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    #52

    Apr 20, 2009, 08:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by liz28 View Post
    Your one tough cookie!
    Or just stupid! I did end up in jail and that was no day at the park :eek:
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    #53

    Apr 20, 2009, 09:10 AM

    Well, try this on for size:

    I've never touched marijuana - not a single day in my life.
    My daughter was born on 4/20.
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    #54

    Apr 22, 2009, 07:40 PM

    I had a not to bright moment. I didn't know what 4-20 meant so I asked my dad because he knows everything.

    He explained everything to and tried to get me to help out. My father is from the islands and since he retired all he does he smoke. Well that's not all he does but it do it a lot. Also, he has a lot of Jamaican friends and listen to Bob Marley, go figure.
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    #55

    Apr 25, 2009, 03:20 PM

    Hi ex...

    I should assume the cop was telling the truth,

    But you ask for immediate reaction...

    My immediate reaction was to believe the prisoner!!
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    #56

    Apr 25, 2009, 06:41 PM

    People lie. Cops lie. Criminals lie. And above all, politicians and people in power lie. The only way the cop gets convicted is if he left his camera on or he was recorded on a public camera.

    Play forensics. Marks where handcuffs are and marks on criminals body.

    Any combination is possible.
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    #57

    Apr 25, 2009, 09:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by artlady View Post
    excon agrees: A happy 420 to you on this most glorious of days, 4-20. Can you guess what I'm going to be doing at 4:20 this afternoon?
    I'm guessing the same as everyday at that time:)

    My son is fond of telling me *Mom,I always seem to look at the clock when its 4:20,I wonder what that means* Duh!
    What is 4/20:confused:
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    #58

    Apr 25, 2009, 10:10 PM

    What is 4/20?

    The day to smoke weed... April 20th. Or every day at 4:20 pm.
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    #59

    Apr 25, 2009, 11:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by liz28 View Post
    What is 4/20?

    The day to smoke weed... April 20th. Or every day at 4:20 pm.
    K thanks lizz
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    #60

    Apr 26, 2009, 02:21 AM

    Urban Dictionary: 420

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