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    Mar 9, 2009, 05:38 PM
    Communitey Agitator lays it all on the line
    Now that he's sufficiently offended Buffett, Cramer, and Limbaugh, the First Agitator is laying his program on the line: "US President Barack Obama mustered his powerful campaign army on Monday, calling on his millions of supporters to lobby on behalf of his budget and economic plan. The appeal to back the president was made in an email and video sent out by "Organizing for America," the organization which morphed out of Obama's campaign machinery to push his agenda when he entered the White House."
    Will we see red flags and banners in the streets? Obama musters campaign army for economic fight
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    Mar 9, 2009, 05:58 PM

    What else is new. These clowns are still in campaign mode and so far the markets have responded just like many perdicted.
    D O W N!! I really liked the comment that someone made a couple of days ago. If the market continues like it has, by months end it will be a zero! What a vote of confidence for the dufus in the oval office!
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    Mar 9, 2009, 08:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by 450donn View Post
    What a vote of confidence for the dufus in the oval office!
    What if we use, 'dumb-a$$-in chief'? Or, perhaps jackass-in-chief?
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    Mar 10, 2009, 07:10 AM

    Hello George:

    Tis true, we all know who the real dufus is.

    excon
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    Mar 10, 2009, 07:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by George_1950 View Post
    What if we use, 'dumb-a$$-in chief'? Or, perhaps jackass-in-chief?
    That pretty much sums what level you and your friends stoop to.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 07:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello George:

    Tis true, we all know who the real dufus is.

    excon
    Cool; then it's jackass-in-chief, aka jackass.

    Looks like the jackass is not grinning, at least, not yet. His budget is running into obstacles: "President Obama’s budget doesn’t have enough support from lawmakers to pass, the Senate Budget Committee chairman said Tuesday.

    "Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said he has spoken to enough colleagues about several different provisions in the budget to make him think Congress won’t pass it.


    "Conrad urged White House budget director Peter Orszag not to “draw lines in the sand” with lawmakers, most notably on Obama’s plan for a cap-and-trade system to curb carbon emissions." President Obama’s budget doesn’t have enough support from lawmakers to pass, the Senate Budget Committee chairman said Tuesday.

    TheHill.com

    Of course, it's just a process. But let's see where the jackass wants to fight.
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    Mar 16, 2009, 09:28 AM

    "Marking a new season in his young presidency, President Barack Obama and his allies around Washington are about to give the capital a bracing lesson in one-party rule."

    "'One of the things that progressives did when we were in the wilderness,' Democratic guru Paul Begala said, 'was build up a new infrastructure — think tanks, activist groups, PR machines — all of which are tuned up and ready to run.. . Add to that this dominant, remarkable new president, and you've got a force that progressives have not had since LBJ or maybe FDR.'”
    Obama tightens reins on capital - Manu Raju and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
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    Mar 16, 2009, 09:57 AM
    I would suggest that Obama's incompetent running of the Executive Dept. including letting Madame Mimi's minions run rough shod over the bucket list ;his inability to staff arguably the most important Dept. in his Presidency ,his lack of focus ,and his over reaching ambitious agenda has left an opening for an ineffective Presidency and Congress not seen since the Jimmy Carter days. He has thrown so much at Congress that it would be impossible for them to adequately debate ,craft and pass legislation without giving due diligence to each measure.

    We keep on going back to this . Either they don't know what to do... they don't consider the economy the crisis they keep saying it is... or they intentionally want to keep the economy in "crisis " to advance their other agendas ( see the oft sited quote by Rhambo ) .


    Add David Broder of the Washington Compost ;self proclaimed dean of the Washington insider punsters; to those who have lost the tingle .
    washingtonpost.com
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I would suggest that Obama's incompetent running of the Executive Dept. including letting Madame Mimi's minions run rough shod over the bucket list ;his inability to staff arguably the most important Dept. in his Presidency ,his lack of focus ,and his over reaching ambitious agenda has left an opening for an ineffective Presidency and Congress not seen since the Jimmy Carter days.
    Hello tom:

    What's it been, 6 weeks?? You guys are silly.

    Course, maybe if the dufus hadn't broken it soooo badly, it wouldn't require all this fix up.

    excon
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:26 AM
    Ex, if it weren't for the fact that even sources close to Obama have already said he's "overwhelmed" in just 6 short weeks you might have a point.

    You call us silly, but if I were you I’d be very concerned that the promised one has bitten off more than he can chew. But then, we tried to tell you the Presidency was no place for on-the-job training.
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:29 AM

    The point is that Carter did the same thing in his 1st few weeks... burying the Congress with lots of proposals . They were overwhelmed by it . Obama should be focusing on the economy and jobs... and let proposals for gvt take over of health care , global warming ,alt. energy ,education initiatives , rewriting the tax code to punish the successful be tabled to later . He should stop his weekly barnstorming like his is still on the campaign trail ,and he should get some rest on Wednesday nights... at least until confidence is restored in the financial sector .
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:30 AM
    He could do all that you mention and you would still rag on him like some nagging wife. It's your life's ambition.
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:33 AM

    Concerned citizen .
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    Mar 16, 2009, 10:59 AM
    Oh, you mean like some Bush hater.
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    Mar 18, 2009, 01:24 PM
    And you thought the days of "cowboy politics" were over when Bush left office. A few weeks after Obama tells us "you don't mess with Joe," Biden himself is playing the cowboy.

    “You think I’m kidding? This is the only part the president was right about: don’t mess with Joe!”
    But God bless Biden for not being able to refrain from saying what he's thinking, "This is the only part the president was right about." In his entire speech to congress, the only thing Obama got right was "don't mess with Joe." According to Joe. :D
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    Mar 18, 2009, 02:05 PM
    The Community agitator is planning the next stage of his putsch . Leaning a quick lesson from the bucket list "debate " he will not make the need to compromise mistake happen again .

    Peter Orszag, the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget has openly threatened to use a Senate procedure call "reconsiliation" to get key elements of the President's agenda passed like global warming and health care programs, and perhaps his proposals to raise taxes on the wealthy.

    The reconsiliation procedure allows the Senate to pass legislation with an "up or down " 51 majority vote bypassing the normal fillibuster proof 60 votes for cloture .

    Now ;it is not unusual to get a simple budget through the Senate this way. However ;this is not a simple budget ,it introduces sweeping new programs that would fundamentally change the United States. The tactic limits debate to no more than 20 hours and imposes restrictions on amendments. So in other words ;his "sea change" agenda gets jammed down our throats without any serious discussion or debate .

    Suppose the Senate in 2005 had used similar tactics when President Bush's Social Security reforms were considered ? We'd still be hearing the howling of protest .I have no doubt that had the Republicans done that ;Harry Reid would've marched the complete body of Senate Democrats out to the front steps and boycotted the proceedings.

    The only thing stopping this is 8 Senate moderate "Blue Dog "Democrats who sent a letter to the President stating
    “Legislation so far-reaching should be fully vetted and given appropriate time for debate,” “Using this procedure would circumvent normal Senate practice and would be inconsistent with the administration's stated goals of bipartisanship, cooperation and openness.”
    http://www.americansforprosperity.or...reconciliation
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    Mar 18, 2009, 02:34 PM

    President Obama has told us, and so have those with BDS, that it took YEARS of a Bush administration and a republican led congress to get us into this predicament. He also told us it would take a lot of hard work and time to recover, so to speak.


    So why the rush to go into trillions of dollars of debt, without first doing the due diligence of examining all these proposed bills?






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    Mar 18, 2009, 02:41 PM

    Because it is not about the countries recovery. It is all about politics. And how fast he can push the liberal agenda before the unsuspecting dolts (us) wake up and revolt. But by then it will be too late. They will have our guns, our ammo, and all of our freedom.
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    Mar 18, 2009, 02:55 PM
    [G]enuine bipartisanship... assumes an honest process of give-and-take, and that the quality of the compromise is measured by how well it serves some agreed-upon goal, whether better schools or lower deficits. This in turn assumes that the majority party will be constrained - by an exacting press corps and ultimately an informed electorate - to negotiate in good faith. -Barack Obama
    So much for that.
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    Mar 18, 2009, 02:56 PM

    That is right, this is the government's grab for more power on the back of hardworking taxpayors of this and future generations.

    Of course if the percentage of those depending on government handouts while paying no taxes increase, that percentage will continue to demand and expect more entitlements from those of us who actually work and pay taxes.






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