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    educatedhorse_2005 Posts: 500, Reputation: 78
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    Aug 15, 2006, 12:20 AM
    Forgiveness
    How do you get forgiveness for your sins.
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    Aug 15, 2006, 12:44 AM
    You forgive others for the sins that they committed onto you. If you are able to do this. Then God in heaven will forgive you.

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    Aug 15, 2006, 04:29 AM
    I experience a release that is like forgiveness by making amends. Amends consist of identifying the wrong thing I did with whom I did it, correcting it and making every effort to not do it again. Sometimes I am forgiven (always with my creator, by the way) and sometimes I am not (only with people who don't understand what I am doing, hold grudges or choose not to trust me again--their prerogative)... but I find making the amends counts and I am released either way. In this way, I cannot be held "hostage" by someone who refused my apology or amends-- something I believe God would never do.
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    Aug 15, 2006, 01:03 PM
    Educatedhorse - The above answers are true, but when I read your question, it sounds like you were asking about sins in general, not just being unforgiving.

    If you are a born-again Christian, your sins were washed clean at the time you accepted Christ into your heart & life. One is more convicted in their Spirit not to sin then, but we are all human. If you make a mistake, remember you have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous (1John 2:1) Run to Him & repent. Don't let Satan talk you into sinning in one area of your life just because you missed it in another. "Well, I've missed it now, I might as well forget the rest of it & live like the devil" Don't do it! When you get off track with God, just confess it & get back on track. He is eager to forgive & to cleanse us of all unrighteousness.
    1John 1:9 - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
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    Forgiving others is found in Scripture also: Mark 11:25 - " and when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any."
    Jesus wanted us to know that releasing those who have wronged us is fundamental to receiving from God. He wanted to impress upon our hearts the fact that we cannot have our prayers answered & hold grudges in our hearts at the same time. Unforgiveness clogs the faith channel & keeps you powerless against the mountains in your life. Unclog the channel of faith & you will soon see things you've been praying for come to pass.(Kenneth Copeland -Faith To Faith 1995)
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    Aug 18, 2006, 06:18 PM
    You don't get forgiveness for your sins. You did them and they are yours. You understand them, and do better. Make amends if you can. You know what you did. You know when you've righted it. Responsibility is in the hands of the individual. I'm sure God wouldn't want anything less.
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    Aug 20, 2006, 07:17 PM
    Repenting the sin doesn't undo the damage. Nor does it mean you won't do it again. It's a show. If a ritual of repentance is the way you internalize and own your sins, OK, but all that counts is in your heart. You and God know. External actions are displays for the crowd. And the more elaborate the display, the less genuine.
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    Aug 20, 2006, 09:21 PM
    But repenting can lead to healing the damage. Now, that implies that there was damage. Some sin is against God directly. Sin costs. There are consequences for sin. But if we are really close to God, we can petition him for forgiveness. The result does depend on someone's heart, if they will end up with a lighter punishment or not. The Holy Spirit helps believers to avoid the action again.
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    Dec 12, 2006, 01:08 AM
    what should one does if he can not remember when was his last confession? Do you need to bother if you can not remember the times and when you comminted a sin? If you fell to same sin again, many times, do you still have the chance of forgiveness?
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    Dec 21, 2006, 12:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild
    what should one does if he can not remember when was his last confession? Do you need to bother if you can not remember the times and when you comminted a sin? If you fell to same sin again, many times, do you still have the chance of forgiveness?

    The answer to your question requires a reading of the heart which only God can do. Habitual sinning if done as an act of defiance against God isn't forgivable if God determines that the person is in his right mind, isn't a victim of brainwashing, upbringing, of being mislead and convinced that God is evil etcetera. Only God can delve into a person's background and motives and based on his thorough knowledge decide whether one qualifies for forgiveness or not.

    It is safe to say, however, that if we try our best to live a Christian life and still sin now and then because we are not perfect, that God will forgive such sins based on Jesus' Ransom sacrifice.
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    Dec 21, 2006, 12:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by educatedhorse_2005
    How do you get forgiveness for your sins.
    You ask for it!
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    Feb 6, 2007, 12:11 PM
    First, experience how "bad" it is what you did?

    Who decided these are "sins" if you say the bible, who chose the bible as your "code of ethics? if you say God, who says that God is a revengeful "being" that is always waiting for you to commit a mistake and punish you for it?

    Your " that is always waiting for you to commit a mistake and punish you for it?

    Your " or mistakes are the way you learn what is "right or wrong" or mistakes are the way you learn what is "guilt" of doing something negative.
    If you committed a negative action against someone, you must accept responsibility for doing that, and then you must accept yourself as " for you. You yourself will feel the consequences and the " and experience all the negative feelings that will come up from that. DO NOT resist them, or they will never go away.

    Then you can go up to the person and ask for a way to restore the energy you diminished and what you can do to increase it again to the positive. This is a great way to forgiveness.

    ~Peace~
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    Feb 12, 2007, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by 8Powell8
    First, experience how "bad" it is what you did?

    Who decided these are "sins" if you say the bible, who chose the bible as your "code of ethics? if you say God, who says that God is a revengeful "being" that is always waiting for you to commit a mistake and punish you for it?

    Your "sins" or mistakes are the way you learn what is "right or wrong" for you. You yourself will feel the consequences and the "guilt" of doing something negative.
    If you committed a negative action against someone, you must accept responsibility for doing that, and then you must accept yourself as "bad" and experience all the negative feelings that will come up from that. DO NOT resist them, or they will never go away.

    Then you can go up to the person and ask for a way to restore the energy you diminished and what you can do to increase it again to the positive. This is a great way to forgiveness.

    ~Peace~
    The Bible agrees with you somewhat on forgiveness. It is strong on reconciliation, particularkly as it affects the person you have offended. Reconciliation and restitution. I take it you have no objection to these principles as contained in the Bible simply because they are in the Bble and not from a freethinker magazine? I expect you accept that good advice, sound social principles ahould be applauded wherever they are found, and that we ought to take great care not to discharge the infant with the water of ablution?

    If thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee, leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way and first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

    If ye forgive men their trespasses, [then] your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

    Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    Forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.

    Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

    But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.


    You will notice that this Godly advice has a lot in common with your ethical code on forgiveness. Well done. Perehaps you will agree that there is nothing wrong with as person having an ethical code that ism partially consonant with your own regardless of where it originated?

    However, when you write: "Your "sins" or mistakes are the way you learn what is "right or wrong" for you. You yourself will feel the consequences and the "guilt" of doing something negative," then I have to dissemble. Leaving someone to do wrong in the hope that they will thereby learn what is right and wrong is bad parenting and a recipe for raising louts and ignoramuses.

    The truth is that not all who do 'wrong' feel any remorse, not even in the case of murderers. If your example were to be taken to its logical conclusion, then we would leave murderes, rapists, and abusers alone in the vain hope that they would learn the errors of their ways. What we find is that those who are not apprehended are likely to contnue their depredations until they either die, become incapacitated, or are taken in charge and locked away. It is a pity that you did not detail what is is that you find objectionable in guiding and correcting children on their social behaviour, as parents normally do, teaching them what is right and what is wrong - that is, what is acceptable and what is unaceptable - from the fountains of their own custom and culture.

    The Decalogue is found at the heart of the legal system of every civilised nation, especially in its herems against uncivilsed social behaviour. What does it matter whether anyone can prove what God did or did not say, and to whom and when, if people want to believe? The civilising and socialising aspects of many of the Bible's teachings are a sure foundation for a just and equitable society. If you do not like people relying on the ancient wisdom, what source do you offer in its place? Surprisingly, you offer none. You offer: Leave them alone to get on with robbing your house, beating up your kids, murdering your kin, and in time they will learn that such behaviour just is not right? Is that what you would have people put in place instead of the Biblical code that says, "Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not lie, etc, etc"?

    If so, you offer nothing but the destruction of human society, and provide a licence to the criminally minded to remove all censors to behaviour and do as they damn well please! Is there any rethinking here?


    M:)RGANITE
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    Feb 12, 2007, 02:39 PM
    How do you get forgiveness for your sins?

    First you acknowledge your sin. You have to admit to yourself what you did and that what you did went against the law. Now this can be the law of Moses ( if that is your upbringing), or the teachings of Christ, or which ever religious code you follow. For the sake of example, I will use the Christian foundastion of teaching.

    Second, you take that sin before God. You tell Him what happened and then you get serious about repentance. That has to be heartfelt and sincere, expressing the desire to be cleansed of the sin and to be forgiven. One can ask for forgiveness, but if you do not mean it, you will not get it.

    Third, to the person you sinned againt, you need to go and admit what you did. Owning up to your responsibility and actions. There again, it has to be heartfelt and sincere. Ask that person for their forgiveness. If you have broken their trust in you, do what you need to do to regain that trust.

    Once you have done that, it is up to that person to forgive the wrongdoing against them. They may not and for that, you are not responsible for. You cannot make them forgive you if they are not willing.

    Then you have done what you know is best. If you do have a Confessor, such a Priest, by all means, go to confession.

    I did not add about any legalities regarding this - I am thinking that if you broke a civil law that would be dealt with separately.
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    Mar 10, 2007, 04:30 PM
    In the king james version of the bible. In the book of proverbs.

    It Says:
    Hatred stirreth up strifes But love covereth all sins.

    Proverbs 10:12

    Chpter ten

    Even look it up. If you have king james version.

    From,
    Kriscool

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