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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:16 PM
    Fasle statement made about me to CPS because I'm a Veteran
    I live in Ohio and a proud father and as a disabled veteran I already suffer from the challenges in life as it is. But as Nov 7th is marked the day my life as a proud Veteran has hit a all time low.

    I have no idea who in the world could ever stoup this low to destroy a family like this but they did. Someone called CPS claiming that my family was here and I was yelling that I was going to cause severe harm to them (sorry I can't use the word they did I just can't even think of doing it). Mind you this was to happen in the morning and my wife and I was still in bed asleep while our daughter was spending the night still over at grandma's.

    There was no 911 calls or police involvement what so ever the entire day. I woke up as normal and waited for my mother (grandma) to arrive for we can go to school and pick up my daughter like we always do while the wife was still sleeping from working 3rd shift the night before.

    So, grandma & I got my daughter and decided while the wife was still sleeping we would do a little early Christmas window shopping. We arrived back home around 4:30pm and just started to get settled in like normal and finish some of straightening up that I put off since we went to the store.

    Just about 5pm I just started to get my med's ready that I normally take at this time while grandma was still doing some dishes and the little girl was playing school by the front door. When all of a sudden I heard a "knock" at the door. No biggie that's not that uncommon for that to happen so my daughter ran up with me to great the people at the door and low behold there stood 2 police officers and 2 CPS workers.

    That's when my heart hit the floor because the CPS workers just came right out in front of my daughter and I and told us why they were here for. My jaw hit the floor and as I turned to look down to my daughter tears came out of my eyes as I still can't can't get the look she had on her little face as she looked back up to me. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU BUT THAT IS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND SHOULD BE A MISTAKE.

    The tone of the home when they came was like any other home, the wife was still sleeping and as I mentioned above my daughter was playing by the front door (even went to greet them at the door to say hello) grandma was still in the kitchen doing the dishes. The TV volume was low and the house was clean.

    One case worker saw grandma moving around out in the kitchen and yelled "WHO'S THIS" SCARING the living daylights out of her (which is not good for her age) the other case worker started to questioned me about my meds since my chair is close by the front door and why they were on the coffee table. I told them what they were for and why they were there (or at least tried to). Then they asked if there was anyone else in the house I told them yes my wife is but she's still sleeping from working last night. Would you like for me to get her for you I asked. I was told to get her and was escorted upstairs by the police officer while at that time my daughter ran upstairs to her room to play in her room.

    During this time, they cornered grandma downstairs and drilled her about my meds and asked her if she was afraid of me. She said NO she had no reason to be afraid. Here only response about the med's was she was concerned about them. (but what mother that loves their child wouldn't say that?)

    By this time I was retuning from upstairs but I have to take 1 step at a time because of my knees. The social worker asked what's wrong with my leg. I told them it got banged up in the 1990 gulf war and I have trouble getting up and down stairs. Then this is where I really think the TONE changed. She made the comment, '"OH YOUR A VETERAN"" like that makes me a auto labeled nut job. Then her voice got loud and louder like a drill Sargent would barking orders. From that moment on. I just sat down in my chair in disbelief from her aggressive attitude she was now taking just because she discovered I was a Vet.

    CPS then cornered grandma and my wife back in the kitchen and continued to drill them and drill them. Until she got what she wanted, for my wife and mother to sign (trick) the paperwork to have grandma take my little girl out of the home. Even though BOTH grandma and my wife acknowledge that did not happen and we had no idea what they were talking about.

    So by CPS doing their tactics on them I was forced to do a Physc evaluation. So I went to the VA and made a appointment to prove I was no harm to myself and to others (as I already knew) and had the VA call CPS to tell them that the appointment was made and it will be done. CPS agreed to the arrangement that was made and I thought that was that. So Dad and I stopped back home to pick up some soda's for the trip since the VA appointment was at a another VA clinic. And it wasn't even 5 minutes that I was home CPS was knocking at the door arguing with me wanting me to go to the local mental clinic.

    Dad immediately jumped on the phone and called the VA and told them what was going on. They said wait one and stay on the line while we make the call to put a stop to this. The CPS workers at the house cells went off and they hung up and just walked away. Not even to say I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. (yeah I know that'll never happen)

    Anyway, I had my VA evaluation done on Monday and like I said earlier no mental problems at all. Even the VA doctor noted that he felt I didn't even need a follow-up appointment unless I wanted one. I would think that speaks volumes?

    Now it's been a week since they been here and caused this. I know when I was a MP there would have been no way in hell I could have cause this much crap on a family when there was no evidence to show what the caller said was true. I would have made a note in my file that someone had it out on this family or this was a wrong address for the following reasons:

    Child playing by front door and greeting us ---would not have shown me any signs of abuse
    Child wearing clean clothes and healthy looking--- would not shown me any signs of abuse
    Child or any adult did not have any scuff, scrapes, or cut marks on their arms or hands.
    Grandma in the kitchen cleaning----------------- that's something every grandma would do
    Wife still sleeping------------------------------------ that suggest a normal thing if you work 3rd shift
    No one when questioned separately showed signs of mental distress or abuse
    No signs of the house being a muck
    Husband (me) being calm but in shock from the news
    No one when questioned separately even knew what was going on
    Everyone denied gun ownership
    Husband has clean record not even a traffic ticket


    But for some reason, no of this was even considered in my case. I still hear the OH you're a VETERAN comment and that's when things changed. To be very very honest, what scares me the most there was a call made and their wasting their time on the wrong house. I would never hurt my family, I love them as they love me.

    So if there is someone out there in the internet world that hears my story and would love to help please let me know.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:30 PM

    I don't know what help you want or expect. CPS has to take such reports seriously. Maybe they could have been more professional but they were dealing with a report of violent threats.

    Have you talked with anyone in CPS?
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:41 PM

    I do understand taking threats seriously & they won't return calls.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:45 PM

    Then you might want to consult an attorney to force them to return calls.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:53 PM

    If I had the $$$$ I would, but only receiving the little I get from the VA for severing OUR country that's the hard part. Finding one that's a good one.

    Like I said, I understand taking this seriously, but what is my recourse of action against the CPS worker stating all this in front of the child. That is not supposed to happen at all cost. One other thing if this was as serious as this was made out the police would have taken action. Not just CPS. There was NO police action taken
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:57 PM

    CPS workers are in a difficult position as are parents defending their rights to be parents. I feel for you that you and your family had to go through this. Typically CPS workers interview the minor(s) in question of abuse or neglect in a school setting and are trained to be very careful not to ask "leading" questions like "Sometimes you feel afraid of your dad dont you?" would be innapropriate. I work in a medical environment and have seen many cases of suspected abuse and or neglect called in to CPS that either were not followed up on at all, or were dismissed due to lack of eveidence after one meeting. I have heard that it is a felony to knowingly make a false report to CPS but if you don't know whom made the report that won't help as the law states CPS must keep that information confidential. Perhaps it will give you peace to focus on the fact that while we are all human and make mistakes both in our careers and as parents, we are all trying to do what is best for those who are unable to do for themselves. I wish you and your family calmness of mind and great blessings in the future. Thank you for all you have done for our freedom.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 07:59 PM

    The only other recourse I can suggest is to contact a local politician or media.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 08:24 PM

    Just to make a note, there was no questions regarding my care or anything to do with my daughter. This was all about my whole entire family not just the family that lives with me.
    This was all about my medications as they put it.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 08:44 PM

    1. if they don't have a warrant never let CPS into your home.

    2. you can not afford not to have an attorney, period, it can be a matter of keeping or losing your children, so I would sell my TV my computer, donate blood what ever has to e done to save my children.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 09:13 PM

    A lot of lawyers do work on a sliding scale. Perhaps there is some way to find one or one that works with vets. What happened to you is discrimination. They shouldn't get away with that. And with a lawyer you might find out who reported you.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 09:26 PM

    My fear is that with me being disabled they will try to use that against me even though the original call was a false charge.
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    Nov 16, 2008, 04:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by disabledveteran View Post
    my fear is that with me being disabled they will try to use that against me even tho the original call was a false charge.


    It sounds like your disability has nothing to do with this and the "problem" as reported is your medications. It doesn't sound to me like the statements were made simply because you're a Veteran. There are lots and lots of Veterans, both able bodied and disabled, out there.

    What is the nature of your disability and does your local VA have a list of Attorneys who provide services either free or at a reduced cost?

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