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SweetDee · Nov 5, 2008, 04:58 AM

:eek::D History has just been made in the US of A. Congratulations to all of you that elected this new president. I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.

I wish the Obama family well and quite frankly I say, "Hats off to you"! It's over the top ASTOUNDING and FABULOUS all in one sentence.

Imagine the changes that can take place in the US?

Imagine how all the haters are going to react in a country filled with so many racists... :eek: As I said before... I wish the Obama family well. I hope they have a ton MORE body guarding scenarios available... I mean, assassinations are probably something that the racists are already conjuring up...

Anyone have any ideas about how they feel that the US will benefit from this new president?

I'm happy for you Obama supporters!:) I feel personally that the right man won... (but I'm just a little 'ol Canadian girl! Hehe).

gromitt82 · Nov 5, 2008, 04:58 AM

Today, a black man has become the President of the United States of America!

Thus, that dream Martin Luther King had 45 years ago, when he said “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal." Has, at long last, become true. And what is even more striking is that 145 years ago, President Lincoln abolished –at least, officially- slavery.

From a strict Christian point of view and leaving aside all other political considerations regarding the new President B.O. which do not come into the scope of this Board, the American people has taught the world a lesson which we should all take good note of…
For it is a lesson based upon one of the columns of our faith: that GOD has created ALL MEN EQUAL AND WITH THE SAME RIGHTS. The other column is based on LOVE. “LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I LOVE YOU “(John 15:12)

Even if he turns out not to be as glamorous and efficient as the image he has managed to project the point has already been made by the American people. That a great majority of this great country has decided that it was about time to start afresh and do it by assuming one basic Christian tenet: we are ALL equal, independently of our race, beliefs or pigmentation of our epidermis.

That this may also be the beginning of a new more peaceful and less materialized era!
As a Spaniard I recognize that today I feel a little envious of Americans.

Allheart · Nov 5, 2008, 05:43 AM

Sweet Dee,

I am so sorry that your perception of our people is the way it is. But if you think about it,
American's last night, showed their true inner spirit and heart, and the light shines so brightly on the fact that it would be impossible for last nights results to have taken place, if your perception of our people was accurate. Actually, last nights results... say the exact opposite, and I feel great pride in my nation. Last night the minority "haters" were quieted and who we really are, should be clear to all... the UNITED States of America.

tomder55 · Nov 5, 2008, 05:53 AM

Canada doesn't have clean hands either .

speechlesstx · Nov 5, 2008, 08:42 AM

What a disappointment. After looking forward to finally commenting on "history in the making" I looked here and found a hater criticizing haters. I'll offer my congratulations elsewhere.

NeedKarma · Nov 5, 2008, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I'll offer my congratulations elsewhere.

Nah, you won't - we know you. :D

ScottGem · Nov 5, 2008, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by SweetDee

I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.

I have to comment on this. I have to ask what proof that you have that racists "run so rampant" in the US? I'm not going to deny that racists do exist or that some of them are virulent. But I think the very fact that Obama was able to win shows that racism is no longer so rampant. I think we have proven that a large number of us believe that a person's views matter more to use than the color of their skin. That goes for many that voted for McCain as well. Sure a lot of McCain voters were voting against Obama rather than for McCain, but plenty of they voted for McCain because of his views. This means that a large percentage of the population voted based on the candiates position and ideology and not their race.

So, not so SweetDee, I suggest you do some more reflection and fact chancking before you try to forment more hate.

speechlesstx · Nov 5, 2008, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Nah, you won't - we know you. :D

NK...

If you try really hard you MIGHT be able to imagine what I want to say here.

NeedKarma · Nov 5, 2008, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

NK ...

If you try really hard you MIGHT be able to imagine what I want to say here.

Is it - "see my post in the arugula thread" ?

speechlesstx · Nov 5, 2008, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Is it - "see my post in the arugula thread" ?

No, it's more descriptive of you. I suppose I could act like the losers in the 2000 and 2004 election...

SweetDee · Nov 5, 2008, 11:16 AM

As I said, I believe the right candidate won! I am happy for the Obama family as I am for the people who have chosen his team.

I just know enough about my cousins, the Americans, to know that there WILL be fall out... it's in the culture.

tomder55 · Nov 5, 2008, 11:28 AM

Look to your own back yard. I'll admit one thing however... We used to make fun of Canada being a socialist nanny state . But Canada had the good sense to vote in a conservative government while we are trying to play catch up to a discreditted governing philosophy.

NeedKarma · Nov 5, 2008, 11:36 AM

Hi tom,
Whether it's a liberal or conservative government in power it our universal healthcare or advanced social programs were never in danger.

ScottGem · Nov 5, 2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SweetDee

As I said, I believe the right candidate won! I am happy for the Obama family as I am for the people who have chosen his team.

I just know enough about my cousins, the Americans, to know that there WILL be fall out...it's in the culture.

That is so contradictory. If it was "in the culture" then he wouldn't have been elected in the first place. So obviously its NOT in the culture. Will there be some fallout? It wouldn't surprise me. There are deviants in any culture. Maybe the US has more than its share due to out history. But you clearly know very little about us if you think its "in the culture".

kindj · Nov 5, 2008, 01:05 PM

The allegations of "racism" used to annoy me--now they simply bore me.

How is it any less racist to support Obama simply because of his race than to support McCain simply because of his?

letmetellu · Nov 5, 2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by SweetDee

:eek::D History has just been made in the US of A. Congratulations to all of you that elected this new president. I cannot imagine the fall out that will see the light of day amongst the racists that run so rampant in your nation.

I wish the Obama family well and quite frankly I say, "Hats off to you"! It's over the top ASTOUNDING and FABULOUS all in one sentence.

Imagine the changes that can take place in the US?

Imagine how all the haters are going to react in a country filled with so many racists...:eek: As I said before...I wish the Obama family well. I hope they have a ton MORE body guarding scenarios available...I mean, assassinations are probably something that the racists are already conjuring up...

Anyone have any ideas about how they feel that the US will benifit from this new president?

I'm happy for you Obama supporters!:) I feel personally that the right man won...(but I'm just a little 'ol Canadian girl! hehe).

Why in the world would "just a litte ol Canadian girl! hehe" try to start a race situation on the day after the election. It is people like you that give being alive a bad name.

And by the way not every one that did not vote for Obama is a racist.

Choux · Nov 5, 2008, 02:21 PM

Dee, America has changed so much from the racist country I grew up in in the 1950's and from the activities of me and my friends in the 1960's when we went all out to help our brothers and sisters get their civil rights.

Racists aren't everywhere any more!! Obama's election proves that, and HE CARRIED THE STATE THAT WAS THE HEAD OF THE OLD CONFEDERACY... Virginia.

There are pockets of racism, but we have come so far since the '60's; I can hardly believe it. I can truly rest in peace seeing the Noble Ideals I stood for bear magnificent fruit. :)

America is truly a great country.

tomder55 · Nov 6, 2008, 04:47 AM

Hi tom,
Whether it's a liberal or conservative government in power it our universal healthcare or advanced social programs were never in danger.

Yes NK I realize that entrenced entitlements are hard to eliminate . That is the progression of the nanny-state.
...

How is it any less racist to support Obama simply because of his race than to support McCain simply because of his?

Hi DK ! It's been a while .

I guess the unanswered question about the Obama candidacy is this . Would a white 1st term back bencher ever be seriously considered for the job of President given the comparable lack of experience ?

NeedKarma · Nov 6, 2008, 05:35 AM

I'll take my nanny-state anyday!

kindj · Nov 6, 2008, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

.....

Hi DK ! it's been a while .

I guess the unanswered question about the Obama candidacy is this . Would a white 1st term back bencher ever be seriously considered for the job of President given the comparable lack of experience ?

There once was a time when I'd say no, but anymore who knows what is possible?

As for me, I've grown quite tired of all the "experienced" candidates out there on BOTH sides of the aisle. I don't think the founders ever intended for politics to be a profession. I think our representatives were intended to serve one--maybe two--terms, and then go back to whatever job they held before. I think it was intended to be SERVICE, not a profession.

Look at where the "experienced" leaders have gotten us over the last fifty or so years. Maybe it's time to have some commoners in office for a change.

Don't misunderstand me--I do not think that Obama is the right one for the job. However, that opinion has nothing really to do with his inexperience and certainly nothing to do with his race. It has more to do with the fact that his voting record tells us virtually nothing about his stances on issues, and all his speeches ever talked about was "change." I never once heard him outline clear, concise intentions on much of anything, and the few things he did offer opinions on I generally disagreed with him.

I don't know who the best person for the job is, or if they're even out there. If they are, they haven't spoken up yet.