[magprob]

Friday » June 9 » 2006

Bilderberg-bound filmmaker held at airport

Laura Payton
Ottawa Citizen


Thursday, June 08, 2006


Canadian authorities detained an American activist filmmaker at the Ottawa airport late Wednesday night, confiscating his passport, camera equipment and most of his belongings.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada agents stopped Alex Jones, whose films include Martial Law 9/11: The Rise of the Police State, and questioned him for nearly four hours before letting him go with only one change of clothes and telling him to return Thursday morning.

“It's really chilling, like a police state,” said Mr. Jones of his detention.

Mr. Jones and his crew, camera operators Ryan Schlickeisen and Aaron Dykes, travelled to Canada to film a documentary about the Bilderberg group, a secretive group of former politicians and business leaders who are meeting in Ottawa this week.

A Citizenship and Immigration representative said that her department was unable to comment on Mr. Jones' detention.

“As a result of the privacy act, we are forbidden from discussing individual cases,” said Marina Wilson, spokesperson for the department. “I'm not aware of this... (detention) is at the discretion of our visa officers.”

Mr. Jones said that he and the agents had reconciled prior to his release.

“I want to say, on the record, it takes two to tango. I could have handled it better.”
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For the record, I listened to Alex on the Coasttocoastam radio show last night and all statements that he made were under duress. They actually held him for 15 hours accusing him or everything under the sun. The "Bilderbugers," Kissenger, Rockerfellers, Duponts own Canadian Law enforcement and the Canadian government. Don't feel bad though, they are the "real" American government. Your P.M. was in attendance at their meeting the year prior to him becoming PM. Does that tell you anything? This is just a sign of things to come folks. Soon, they will own you! Any Canadians care to add anything?
http://www.infowars.com/

[educatedhorse_2005]

Good Question

[valinors_sorrow]

PLEASE PASS THE HOT SAUCE

Oh no you too Demon!?
That does it! :D

[orange]

I don't know about the crime part, but I think our press are a lot freer (and thus a lot less biased) than the press of a lot of other countries.

The problem is that news clip doesn't say why he was detained. There could be a reason totally unrelated to his filming a documentary. They might have suspected him of smuggling drugs or guns, or terrorism, etc. Several suspected terrorists were recently apprehended in Ontario.

Anyway so until I have further information (hopefully it will be on the news tonight!), as a Canadian I can't really comment on whether it was a violation of his rights or not. I do know though that customs does have a right to detain you if they think you are up to no good, but I'm sure that's true in the US as well.

[CaptainForest]

As Chava said,

The fact that he is a journalist might have nothing to do with why he was detained.

17 men were just related on terrorism charges here in Ontario.

Without the details, no one knows anything really.

[magprob]

The guy has a clean record and was detained simply because he was there to cover the Biuldabugers. That is the whole truth.

http://www.infowars.com/

[valinors_sorrow]

That seems a bit of an over-reaction, doesn't it?

[magprob]

Friday » June 9 » 2006

Secretive meeting of powerful society a conspiracy theorist's Woodstock

Alexander Panetta
Canadian Press


Friday, June 09, 2006



A private security guard and two Ottawa police officers stand guard outside a west end Ottawa hotel Thursday June 8, 2006 where members of the Bilderberg Group, a collection of the worlds richest and most influential people, will be meeting until Sunday.(CP PHOTO/Tom Hanson)

OTTAWA (CP) - It's like Woodstock for conspiracy theorists.

A serene suburban setting has been transformed into a four-day festival of black suits, black limousines, burly security guards - and suspicions of world domination.

On the outskirts of the nation's capital, a tony high-rise hotel beside a golf course is hosting the annual meeting for one of the world's most secretive and powerful societies.

It's not the Freemasons.

Forget those fabled U.S. military men who tucked away UFOs in the Arizona desert.

These guys, you've probably never even heard of, and if you believe the camera-toting followers who attend all their meetings, they control the world.

They're called the Bilderberg group.

They include European royalty, national leaders, political power-brokers, and heads of the world's biggest companies.

Those who follow the Bilderberg group say it got Europe to adopt a common currency, got Bill Clinton elected after he agreed to support NAFTA, and is spending this week deciding what to do about high oil prices and that pesky fundamentalist president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"Some people say that I advocate a conspiracy theory. That's not true. I recognize a conspiracy fact," said James P. Tucker.

The 74-year-old American journalist has been following the Bilderberg group for decades, has written extensively about it, and recently published his Bilderberg Diary. He follows the group to its annual meetings and stands outside describing to other journalists details of his privileged access to their inner workings.

He is not alone.

Daniel Estulin snapped photographs of every vehicle that approached the concrete-glass complex Thursday. He says Mossad - Israel's spy agency - is paying attention.

Away from the golf course, there are no grassy knolls in the industrial zone outside Ottawa's Brookstreet hotel, the site of this week's meeting, but the scene does nothing to dissuade conspiracists.

Ottawa police officers are standing guard outside a dozen metal gates that serve as security checkpoints a half-kilometre from the hotel.

But Ottawa's finest are clearly not in charge here.

To approach the hotel property, even these uniformed police officers are required to show their credentials to the half-dozen black-suited men working for Globe Risk, a private security firm.

"This is pretty unusual," one Ottawa cop said.

Another said they were hired to be there in their off-duty hours and weren't told much by their superiors: "They just told us, 'These are important people. It's a private meeting.' "

A small crowd of curious onlookers snapped photos of black-windowed sedans stopping at the checkpoints. It was impossible to see who was sitting inside.

But it's fun to imagine.

The Bilderberg group is a half-century-old organization comprising about 130 of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people. The group is named after the Dutch hotel where it held its first meeting in 1954.

But don't expect to find that information on the group's website. They don't have a website.

Nor was there any Bilderberg logo anywhere to be seen Thursday, except for those nondescript white placards stamped with the letter 'B' and tucked under the windshield of all those tinted sedans.

A journalist calling the Brookstreet hotel asked to leave a message for the Bilderbergers.

"Sure," a hotel employee said. "Your name and number?"

The journalist then asked whether the employee could confirm whether the Bilderberg Group was actually meeting there.

"I don't know," she replied.

Even members of the hotel gym were barred from the premises. A sign was slapped on the gym door earlier this week informing them the facilities would be closed for four days. All other hotel guests were asked to check out by Thursday morning. Any vehicles remaining in the parking lot would be towed.

Bilderberg says the privacy of its meetings helps encourage freewheeling discussion.

An unsigned press release, sent by fax, confirmed this year's meeting would deal with energy issues, Iran, the Middle East, terrorism, immigration, Russia, European-American relations and Asia.

"The meeting is private to encourage frank and open discussion," said the release.

"There will be no press conference."

The release included a list of participants at this year's event.

The 2006 group includes David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of Holland, New York Gov. George Pataki, the heads of Coca-Cola, Credit Suisse, the Royal Bank of Canada, a number of media moguls, and cabinet ministers from Spain and Greece.

The group also includes a pair of prominent figures involved in planning the U.S. invasion of Iraq - Richard Perle and Ahmad Chalabi. Fellow White House power-players Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, now head of the World Bank, have spoken to the group in the past.

But Bilderberg is not exclusively a right-wing body, by any means. Bill Clinton's right-hand-man Vernon Jordan, was also in attendance Thursday, as was his Mideast negotiator Dennis Ross.

The prime ministers of Britain and Canada - Tony Blair and Stephen Harper - have addressed the group before, as have former Liberal prime ministers Pierre Trudeau, Paul Martin and Jean Chretien.

Harper spoke to Bilderberg in Versailles, France, in 2003 but his office said he would not attend this year's conference.

Canada remains well represented, however.

The Canadian contingent at this year's event includes Power Corp. boss Paul Desmarais, Indigo books CEO Heather Reisman, and former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna.

The Globe and Mail newspaper publisher, Philip Crawley, was also there. However, Bilderberg followers say that media moguls whose outlets report leaked details from the meetings will see themselves banned in the future.

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[orange]

Well I'm still waiting to see if there's anything about it on the news tonight (it's only just after supper here in the west). I have to admit though that I've never heard of this organization, the Bilderburg Group.

It does sound a bit like when the G8 summit was held in Canada, though. One of my friends went there to protest and security was extremely tight, even for the press. My friend ended up getting hit in the testicle with a rubber bullet (ouch!) and both he and his girlfriend were tear-gassed. If this Bilderburg group is of international importance, and several heads of state and other important people from around the world are attending, then security is likely excellerated for it. That would include the press. It doesn't surprise me in that case, since it's an international event that's simply being held in Canada, rather than solely a Canadian event. Therefore laws / rules etc would be a lot different than "regular" Canadian rules I think, just like with the G8.

Anyway, if hear anything on the news tonight I'll report back! ;)

[CaptainForest]

CTV has an article on this.

Meaning that it probably has aired on CTV NewsNet, if not CTV National.

See: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories


Some of the people that are attending are New York Governor George Pataki.

When you put all those high profiles in once place, in today's world, you better beef up security. It would make for a nice terrorist target.

I see nothing wrong with them meeting. Any citizen can gather and hold conversation. And with enough money, can buy the hotel's exclusive use for 4 days.


And Canada Customs typically do not detain journalists…what's the point in only detaining this American one?

Any Canadian journalist could cover it, yet Alex Jones is singled out.

I still say he was acting suspicious or did something to promote suspicion.

There is not enough information either way though to make a fair determination.

[orange]

Well I just finished watching the news... there was only a very short segment on the topic. But I guess the main point I gleaned from it was that the meeting is highly secret, and who is attending the meeting was not even confirmed by the news, only speculated, that's how secret it is. The group came to the hotel in black, bullet proof cars with darkened windows. No press, Canadian or otherwise, are allowed on the property of the hotel where the group is meeting. Some press tried to come close and were escorted off the property. So this American journalist was not being targeted specifically, except maybe in that they were worried that he would pose a security risk, should he get too close to the meeting, try to break into the hotel, etc. I don't think it has to do with Canadian laws at all... it just so happens that this group is meeting in Canada this time. They have met in other parts of the world on other occasions, and I'm sure they didn't allow the press then, either. So it is similar to the G8 summit in that respect.

The only other thing mentioned was that this would be a heyday for conspiracy theorists, and it showed some Canadians agreeing it shouldn't be so secret and others saying it didn't really matter to them. One of the conspiracies is that this group is planning world domination (again, kind of sounds like what some people believe about the G8!). Four of our recent prime ministers (including our current one) have been present at other meetings of the group.

Sorry that's about all I got out of it. Like I said it was a short segment, overpowered by much longer segments on our extremely low unemployment rate (that was HUGE news today!), and the conviction of 2 people who starved their grandchild to death.

[magprob]

Thanks Orange. These people I call the Buildabugers are actually the Illuminati. They are much better than us all and they do not care who knows that! Have you heard of the Illuminati?

[orange]

I've heard of the Illuminati but I don't know much about them... I think something to that effect was mentioned on the news as well. Actually at the beginning of the news segment they showed that clip from the Simpsons where Homer joins the secret society of which Patrick Stewart is the head, LOL.

[phillysteakandcheese]

I find it entirely more plausible that this "journalist" provoked the Customs officials into detaining him, simply so that he could raise a stink about groups trying to suppress his "work". It's called publicity, and this kind of publicity is essential when doing these conspiracy stories because it serves as "proof" to the claim.

[orange]

Yeah that's a good point, philly!

[magprob]

I find it entirely more plausible that this "journalist" provoked the Customs officials into detaining him, simply so that he could raise a stink about groups trying to suppress his "work". It's called publicity, and this kind of publicity is essential when doing these conspiracy stories because it serves as "proof" to the claim.

Yes Philly, that could also be. Has any of the witnesses present said anything that might lead to that conclusion? We are not getting much down here on the story.

[CaptainForest]

Yes Philly, that could also be. Has any of the witnesses present said anything that might lead to that conclusion? We are not getting much down here on the story.

Neither are we.

In fact, it didn't even make the news.

That is, about the journalist, the meeting itself was covered.

[magprob]

Oh well, end of story. Thanks