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    Jun 7, 2006, 07:57 PM
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    Jun 7, 2006, 08:17 PM
    And may your god be with you Starman

    Now to get back to the original question...

    No - The majority of "Killings" ( "murder" to me seems to indicate an intent ) are usually what in France are termed Crimes of Passion.

    OK you get the newspaper headlines for non sensical murders and killings - but if I remember correctly (and if anyone works in a Coroners Office, I'd be interested to know the latest statistics) the majority of unlawful killings are committed in the heat of the moment.

    The last thing the jealous man thinks when he finds his wife in bed with A.N.Other is the consequences of capital punishment.

    These types of killings do not make the news headlines - but the drug befuddled teenager caught in the act of say, a burglary , panics and kills is headline news.

    As I said my statistics are from way back but I don't honestly believe things have changed that much
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    Jun 7, 2006, 08:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dc0415
    Is execution of murderers a deterrent to crime
    Capitol punishment ,in my opinion does not deter crime, but one thing it does is those murders will not kill again guaranteed!:cool:
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    Jun 11, 2006, 11:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonegy
    and may your god be with you Starman

    Now to get back to the original question..............................

    No - The majority of "Killings" ( "murder" to me seems to indicate an intent ) are usually what in France are termed Crimes of Passion.

    OK you get the newspaper headlines for non sensical murders and killings - but if I remember correctly (and if anyone works in a Coroners Office, I'd be interested to know the latest statistics) the majority of unlawful killings are committed in the heat of the moment.

    The last thing the jealous man thinks when he finds his wife in bed with A.N.Other is the consequences of capital punishment.

    These types of killings do not make the news headlines - but the drug befuddled teenager caught in the act of say, a burglary , panics and kills is headline news.

    As I said my statistics are from way back but I don't honestly believe things have changed that much
    Before meting out punishment, the law makes a fine distinction between crimes of passion and crimes which have been carefully and systematically premeditated.
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    Jun 11, 2006, 12:14 PM
    Personally I do not think it is a deterrant at all. I think Corporal punishment done publicly might deter people more than capital punishment. I think more of a punishment is keeping them alive. Many criminals, murderers do not care if they die, many of them beg for it. Why, because it is an easy way out.

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    Jun 11, 2006, 01:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dc0415
    Is execution of murderers a deterrent to crime
    While it would certainly deter some criminals, there are plenty of criminals out there that only live for the moment. They essentially have nothing to live for, so facing a death penalty means little to them and is no deterent at all.
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    Jun 16, 2006, 06:29 AM
    In my own opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, I feel the punishment should fit the crime. An eye for an eye as it may be and it should be done within 6 months of conviction and the news of it broadcast on all the media. The prisons today are to easy on the criminals. All rights should be lost and "chain gangs" reinstituted, using them to repair the roads, clean up after storms like Katrina, etc.. Throw away all the basketballs, footballs weights etc.. Most criminals have more in prison than they ever had in the outside world.
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    Jun 17, 2006, 04:11 AM
    Errrrrrrmmmmm!?

    What happened to "turn the other cheek"?? :rolleyes: :D
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    Aug 19, 2006, 01:53 AM
    The possibility of capital punishment really serves as no deterrent to crime for the simple reason that very few people consider the potential punishment when considering a crime - They don't plan to get caught, so the possible penalty is irrelevant to them at that point. Even more, most "murders" are either not planned at all, or planned while the killer is so wrapped up in what he or she considers the necessity or justification for what they are about to do, that their thinking is a bit too clouded for rational consideration of possible consequences. In my opinion, anyway.
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    Nov 1, 2006, 09:52 AM
    I believe capital punishment does deter crime if it is done properly.

    The US does not do it properly. How is it going to deter crime if the majority of people have not seen an execution? To be a deterent, people must feel and see the execution in a public assembly.

    In this maner, fascist, nationalist and socialist dictators have been empowered. I cannot think of any dictator that has not executed or had someone executed in a public assembly (usually on the spot without trial) as a scare technique.

    First you give people a direction, then you give them a consequence for not following that direction!
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    Nov 1, 2006, 10:53 AM
    ANY punishment deters crime to some extent. But it deters those who don't want to be punished or who think they will be caught.

    That's why capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent. Most murders are crimes of the moment. Those who commit them don't do much thinking about the consequences. Or even consider getting caught. Those who carefully plan a murder, don't think they will be caught so the punishment doesn't enter into their consideration. Even if it does, it only spurs them to plan better. Once someone makes the decision to kill, the consequences rarely are bought into play.
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    Nov 20, 2006, 01:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dc0415
    Is execution of murderers a deterrent to crime
    Obviously not. Bummer.
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    Dec 8, 2006, 02:27 PM
    By killing the killer we ourselves become the killers! It's our choice

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