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N0help4u · Jul 18, 2008, 06:44 AM

Increase taxes and make up new taxes

Tax on the wealthy
Tax if you live in house more than 24 hundred square feet
Double income tax
Social security tax
Tax retirement
Higher tax on inheritance tax
Medical tax
Global poverty tax
Tax windfall profits
Stock market dividend taxes

Obama or McCain?

Choices/change?

What say do we really have with either?

NeedKarma · Jul 18, 2008, 06:56 AM

Don't forget to include the billions that go daily to Iraq!

N0help4u · Jul 18, 2008, 06:58 AM

Yeah that too but I might be posting something on that on Monday
On how Obama wants to keep the war on-going but basically disguise it as something else.

George_1950 · Jul 18, 2008, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

increase taxes and make up new taxes
...
Obama or McCain?

Choices/change?

What say do we really have with either?

Not sure I understand your question.

excon · Jul 18, 2008, 07:01 AM

Hello N0:

The fiasco in Iraq has to be paid for somehow. When you borrow to finance your war instead of taxing the people, the dollar drops against ALL the other currencies. When BUSH borrowed a trillion or so to finance his war, OUR dollar lost 50% of it's value against the Euro.

THAT'S a tax of 50% on every living American.

ME? I'd rather pay my taxes in front, because they get too expensive when you pay them the BUSH way.

excon

N0help4u · Jul 18, 2008, 07:03 AM

What do you think of all those taxes Obama wants?
Do you think McCain is a better OR safer choice?
Are you really happy with either one of them?

excon · Jul 18, 2008, 07:12 AM

Hello again, N0:

Spending is the key. If you spend, you got to pay. The righty's want to spend just as much as the Dems do, maybe EVEN more. War IS expensive.

So, as I said above, I'd rather pay for my taxes in front cause they're cheaper that way.

You are NOT, are you, still living under the fantasy that the libs spend more money than the conservatives?? That ain't the way it is anymore, Saph.

excon

NeedKarma · Jul 18, 2008, 07:23 AM

McCain may attempt to promise something better for you but it's not tenable:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/08/us...=1&oref=slogin

tomder55 · Jul 18, 2008, 07:25 AM

The problem with the dollar decline is that there is too many dollars being held by foreigners because of the trade balance (primarily oil purchases) .

excon · Jul 18, 2008, 07:32 AM

Hello again, tom:

Not really. The dollar decline by half is directly related to inflating the money supply by half. Prices go up to soak up all those extra dollars. Price inflation follows monetary inflation by about 18 months.

excon

tomder55 · Jul 18, 2008, 07:43 AM

The Left Coaster: The Falling Dollar, Inflation, and Oil

excon · Jul 18, 2008, 07:50 AM

Hello again, tom:

From YOUR link: "The world is thus awash in dollars, and excess supply means falling value."

Couple questions; Where do you think those "excess" dollars came from?? And, since when do you use left wingers to make your point?

excon

Galveston1 · Jul 18, 2008, 02:25 PM

Just where are all of those excess dollars? I know several people who would LOVE to get their hands on them! Where I live, $10 per hr is considered good pay. That should be double, but folks can't get it. Now, many are working 1 or more hours a day just to pay for gasoline to get to work and back. Single parents can't make ends meet, especially when you factor in child care. Even 2 income homes are sometimes pressed to make ends meet. Inflation usually brings increased pay along with higher prices, but as of now, and here, that doesn't seem to be happening. Me? I'm retired and hoping my electric bill doesn't go to $1,000 a month.