[progunr]

Within the next 10 to 14 days, the next two issues that the Messiah is going to be contradicting himself on are:

1-We, the NO DRILL DEMOCRATS, have decided that we do need to start finding and obtaining some of our own oil.

2- I believe that English should be the official language of Government in the United States.

Now, just sit back and watch and listen.

[Credendovidis]

1 - But you guys have lot's of your own oil in Alaska, don't you?
2 - No comprendo, Signor !

:D :rolleyes: :p ;) :D

[tomder55]

Not bad prognostication especially the 1st one . Senator Majority Whip Richard Turban on Ill. Has come out in favor of off shore drilling and I expect more Dems. To reposition themselves when they go home and hear an ear full from their constituents.

They will especially back off that tripe about "drilling where in areas of Federal land that have already been approved
"
It's like saying "you are allowed to grow wheat in Death Valley ;but don't disturb the habitat .

[BABRAM]

He's the messiah and you're the prophet? :confused:

Anyway...

1) I think it's likely there will be some drilling off the coast. Some exceptions though, like from the State of California where the "terminator" led by green Republican Gov. Schwarzenegger would oppose. However given the history of both parties involvement in the bans, lifting of partial bans would be no revelation.


2) Not likely. That would risk alienating the hispanic vote.

[michealb]

He isn't going to come out in favor of the off shore drilling, there is already a bill being worked on by the dems to force the oil companies to develop the 84 million acres of land that is currently leased to them in the United states. That's what he is going to put out there in the next week or so.

So instead of drilling off shore where no one will see it they are going to an oil platform in your backyard. That's what the next thing the republican are going to claim the dems are doing.

I still say oil shale is the way to go 400 years of oil at $60 a barrel for the United States.

[George_1950]

1. Maybe; it will be a 'smoke and mirrors' type plan with lots of promises and very little delivery.
2. Nope; he couldn't begin to look his 'friends' (does he have any?) in the face if he went in this direction. I recall reading that 30 states have approved English as its official language; BO won't do that, but does that tell you anything about the man?

[tomder55]

I still say oil shale is the way to go 400 years of oil at $60 a barrel for the United States.

We are making Western Canada very wealthy importing their' black gold from sands rush'. I agree that we should be exploiting shale and at current pricing it is probably profitable to begin.
I predict the environmentalists (who for some strange reason is given standing in court any time they want to ) will throw a monkey wrench into oil from shale development.

[michealb]

When I listened to the oil ceo's testify in congress. The CEO of shell pleaded with congress to allow him to drill oil shale saying he could be profitable doing so at $60 a barrel. He also stated that his company has a new way of getting oil out of oil shale that allows it to be pumped out of the ground like regular oil and protects the ground water around the area as well. Why americans are rioting in the streets for this I don't know.

[progunr]

Eight out of ten people in America speak only English.

For those of you who may be mathematically challenged, that's 80%.

30 States, already have some form of an English Only policy, or resolution in place currently.

The most recent to pass such legislation were Idaho and Kansas in 2007.

In Ohio, 85% of the population is in favor of an English Only policy.

In Oklahoma, 88% are in favor of such legislation.

The so called Messiah has really stepped in a big pile of you know what on this one.

Just another example of his arrogance, and his "I'm better than you" mentality.

[excon]

Hello Prog:

We don't need no stinkin official language.

excon

[progunr]

Hello Prog:

We don't need no stinkin official language.

excon

Actually, what we really don't need is an arrogant, socialist, elitist, extremist, radical community organizer, as a President.

Every historical document ever written in this Country has been done in English.

A huge percentage of every historical record in this Country has been written in English.

It really already IS the official language, there are just a few, about 21 or so states, that have not caught up with making it legally so, YET!

Haven't seen your footprints much lately, still enjoyin' the beach life?

[michealb]

We don't really need an official language if we just secured our borders. Prevent people from breaking the laws that are already in place now and suddenly not having an official language isn't a big deal.

[George_1950]

When I listened to the oil ceo's testify in congress. The CEO of shell pleaded with congress to allow him to drill oil shale saying he could be profitable doing so at $60 a barrel. He also stated that his company has a new way of getting oil out of oil shale that allows it to be pumped out of the ground like regular oil and protects the ground water around the area as well. Why americans are rioting in the streets for this I don't know.

Because they don't know about it, just as I hadn't heard it until I read your post. Some call it apathy, but I believe most Americans lack trust in their news sources just as they do their government. Many folks are turning off TV news, just as they are the printed press. It is amazing that the presidential candidates aren't just pandering to the voters; they are pandering to the press, and not many are watching or reading.

[excon]

It really already IS the official language, there are just a few, about 21 or so states, that have not caught up with making it legally so, YET!

Hello prog:

If it's already the official language, why do we have to do anything? Isn't there enough important legislation for the Republicans to pay attention to??

Nahhhh. The only reason to make it "official" is to keep some people out. That's not very American. We are a nation of immigrants. Our history is one of inclusiveness, not separateness. But, you Republicans want to keep it as white as you can. That's not very patriotic of you. Take off your lapel pin.

excon

PS> I'm baaaaaack...

[George_1950]

We don't really need an official language if we just secured our borders. Prevent people from breaking the laws that are already in place now and suddenly not having an official language isn't a big deal.

You are correct, but there is an influential crowd out there that doesn't share your view, michael.

[progunr]

The only reason to make it "official" is to keep some people out

Please explain how saying that English is the official language keeps anyone out?

I don't follow that line of thought, it's not like someone is going to stand in every airport or at every border, and turn away anyone who can't speak English.

I should not have to learn a second language, just to be able to read the signs at a
U S Bank, anywhere in America, much less in the center of the Nation!

Why protect our border, if we are going to cave in and expect Americans to be required to learn the language of our invaders?

Again, 80% of Americans, speak English, ONLY.

[excon]

Please explain how saying that English is the official language keeps anyone out?

Hello again, Prog:

Well, I guess it depends on WHAT you're going to DO when English is the official language. If it's just symbolic, then nothing is going to happen...

But you want to DO something with it, don't you? For example, you want to make the drivers license test to be available only in English. Wouldn't that prevent a non English speaker from driving?

Isn't that keeping someone from participation?? Ohhh, I get it. It doesn't keep a WHITE person from participation... I get it. Really, I DO understand...

excon

[progunr]

Your getting a little loony on me now man!

I have a black daughter in law, and two beautiful mixed race Grandchildren.

Please don't accuse me of being a racist, over not wanting to be forced to learn Spanish, just to be able to continue to live in the United States.

Oh, do you want a bunch of people driving around here that can't read the road signs?

I don't.

[excon]

Oh, I get it. It doesn't keep a WHITE person from participation....

Hello again, Prog:

Correction!! Correction!! It doesn't keep an ENGLISH speaking person from participation... It DOES keep out non English speakers who tend not to be white.

You DO, of course, know what I mean. You're just throwing this black stuff out as a red herring... Come on, Prog. It's just you and me.

Look. I'm all for passing laws that give rights to people... I love laws that are inclusive of everybody... But, when you start passing laws that TAKE stuff away from somebody, I'm not on board. Making ANY language official, takes stuff AWAY from those who don't speak the language.

That IS what you're trying to do, NO?? Making a drivers license manual available in Spanish takes NOTHING away from you. But refusing to do so, DOES take something away from non English speakers.

Nope, it's not MY kind of law.

excon

[progunr]

Hey, yeah, it's you and me, and it was YOU that put the word WHITE in capitol letters.

Red Herring, I think not.

You took a jab, and I deflected it.

So how much is it going to cost us to translate every road sign in America to appease those who don't want learn English?

I see it as two choices.

FORCE American's to learn another language in order to live here comfortably or,

FORCE those who come here to learn English, in order to live here comfortably.

I choose the second, you choose the first.

Fine with me.