[BABRAM]

I can't afford to vote for McCain and neither can middle and lower class America. Vote Obama!

YouTube - CNN Crunches Obama and McCain Tax Plans

[Choux]

Whoever the next President is, he will have to raise taxes to pay for the Wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

Obama will not tax the families with income under $250,000.00.

[tomder55]

Obama Tax Policies Penalize, McCain's Reward - HUMAN EVENTS

[George_1950]

Obama will not tax the families with income under $250,000.00.

Say what? Perhaps you would like to revise and extend?

[BABRAM]

Fat cats get rewarded under the McCain tax structured policy as the CNN non-partisan clearly demonstrated. The more you make the more John McCain looks out for you. Ann Richards targeted George Herbert Walker Bush when she said he was "born with a silver spoon in his mouth," however every Republican since has proved her correct. The break line is at 112K. If you make less than 112K your punished under John McCain's plan. However, for example, if you make 2.9 million, you pay more taxes under Obama, but guess what "Tom"... you're rewarded under John McCain. Yup! There's that reward for the fat cats! Another Republican p!$$ on the under income middle and lower class plan as we suffer through inflation and a slow economy. No thank you "John McCain." Vote Obama!

YouTube - CNN Crunches Obama and McCain Tax Plans

[speechlesstx]

Obama Tax Policies Penalize, McCain's Reward - HUMAN EVENTS

"Married making $60,000: McCain’s tax is only $9,000. Obama will hit you for $16,000."

If Human Events is right I can't afford Obama. Of course, everyone has their own analysis of their tax plans but they all agree Obama will cost taxpayers more. Obama "would raise taxes for almost 10 million senior households, over a third of the total," for an overall reduction of 1.9 percent in after tax income for seniors according to the Tax Policy Center.

[George_1950]

More class warfare from Democrats; nothing new. So Obama's message to the young folks just entering the labor market is, "Not only will I not reform the Social Security debacle made by your grandparents, but if you are successful and do well in Obama's Amerika, I will punch in you in the pocket-book." We are supposedly, "Land of the free, Home of the brave." Not with Obama, however. More like, "Land of the meek, Home of the Sheep." No thanks.

[BABRAM]

Let's see... who's figures should we trust? The facts presented by non-partisans as demonstrated on CNN and shown to a world wide audience or a Republican written article by a Republican that voted for Dubya twice?

YouTube - CNN Crunches Obama and McCain Tax Plans


Vote Obama!

[George_1950]

Let's see...who's figures should we trust? The facts presented by non-partisans as demonstrated on CNN and shown to a world wide audience or a Republican written article by a Republican that voted for Dubya twice?!

YouTube - CNN Crunches Obama and McCain Tax Plans


Vote Obama!

My my: nonpartisans on CNN? CNN as 'nonpartisan'?

[BABRAM]

George, you deny the facts?

[George_1950]

George, you deny the facts?

At this point, a plan is a plan, and all plans depend upon the assumptions involved in the equation. Meanwhile, here are some facts: FactCheck.org: Do middle-income persons pay lower federal income taxes under Bush than they did under Bill Clinton?
Of course, as they say, past results is no guarantee of future results.

[BABRAM]

Just wanted to make it clear that in this election "McCain vs. Obama" that it was non-partisan study presented by CNN. If you want to go off the subject and speak on Bill Clinton and Dubya, I'll be glad to help you beat both of them up.

[excon]

Hello:

Let's see - we got statistics, and we got other statistics.. Then we got politicians. I don't believe any of 'em.

DO I believe that Obama has MY interests at heart better than does McCain? I DO, and THAT'S how I'm going to make my decision...

This other stuff, is just okee doak.

excon

[George_1950]

Just wanted to make it clear that in this election "McCain vs. Obama" that it was non-partisan study presented by CNN. If you want to go off the subject and speak on Bill Clinton and Dubya, I'll be glad to help you beat both of them up.

The point is, in politics, it is never "non-partisan"; and in politics, there is context. Clinton promised tax cuts, just to beat the Elder Bush, in which he lied and raised taxes. I can recall Bill saying, "I've worked harder on this than any thing in my life and we just can't afford this tax cut...blah, blah, blah...." That, Bobby-boy, is a Democrat tax cut. Obama will be no different; in fact, the "Bush" tax cuts will expire in 2010, right? And then Obama has his 'soak the successful' program that you are swooning over.

[magprob]

The inflation tax hasn't run its full course yet. When it has, real taxes will be raised... don't worry. When they are, I'll bet your poor ole grey haired granny will be hit harder than Bill Gates or your garden variety Wall Street Execs.

[BABRAM]

The point is, in politics, it is never "non-partisan"; and in politics, there is context. Clinton promised tax cuts, just to beat the Elder Bush, in which he lied and raised taxes. I can recall Bill saying, "I've worked harder on this than any thing in my life and we just can't afford this tax cut...blah, blah, blah...." That, Bobby-boy, is a Democrat tax cut. Obama will be no different; in fact, the "Bush" tax cuts will expire in 2010, right? And then Obama has his 'soak the successful' program that you are swooning over.

You keep moving the target George. Now the argument is that Obama and McCain both liars based on past politicians. All right. I can see your sick of politicians in general. Who isn't? I certainly am! I place politicians in a category next to car salesman, lawyers, and visits to the dentist. Now if you can afford otherwise, vote for McCain. I have plenty of friends that are simply voting for John McCain because they are wealthy, but I'm not. Actually some of are very wealthy. Yes, as is, I'd rather soak the wealthy, I know they can afford it. I'm currently looking to put my wife to work part-time for a second income. Oh! Bobby-boy here has his eyes on a new model Kahr Arms / .45 ACP Models / PM Series (for conceal carry factor) and yet that's not even close to being in my current budget. My wife wants a few things herself like Toyota Cars, Trucks, SUVs & Accessories. Hmm come to think of it, a second car might become a necessity if she gets a job, and perhaps I'll just buy a used vehicle and let her drive my car. Anyway my point is that we've put off purchasing from the wish list so often just for our family necessities. Outside of some connections and fringe benefits, I'm your average Joe middle class guy. That's another reason why I'm voting Obama.

[George_1950]

OK. You're OK, Bobby; just a little young and abused.

[BABRAM]

I think your around my pops age, in your mid to late sixties? I never knew if that 1950 was associated with your actual birth date or represented something else? Abused? Well I had previous a marriage to fiery hot headed Latina from Brazil and that probably counts for some wear and tear :eek:. Life's certainly a wonderful continuous learning process and we can never learn enough.

[George_1950]

You are obviously a bright fellow, Bobby. What I would like to know is why you say: "I'd rather soak the wealthy, I know they can afford it." How do you feel about just going to one of your friends and/or neighbors and just taking their money because they can afford it; just pull out your gun or whatever weapon of choice amuses you, and take their money, which no one gave to them, and give it to the government? I hope you wouldn't do that, but it's no less a theft to hire Obama to steal for you. Bobby, you work for your money and it's yours; same with me. How do you reconcile giving your neighbor or the IRS the authority to take what does not belong to them?

[magprob]

You keep moving the target George. Now the argument is that Obama and McCain both liars based on past politicians. Alright. I can see your sick of politicians in general. Who isn't?! I certainly am! I place politicians in a category next to car salesman, lawyers, and visits to the dentist. Now if you can afford otherwise, vote for McCain. I have plenty of friends that are simply voting for John McCain because they are wealthy, but I'm not. Actually some of are very wealthy. Yes, as is, I'd rather soak the wealthy, I know they can afford it. I'm currently looking to put my wife to work part-time for a second income. Oh! Bobby-boy here has his eyes on a new model Kahr Arms / .45 ACP Models / PM Series (for conceal carry factor) and yet that's not even close to being in my current budget. My wife wants a few things herself like Toyota Cars, Trucks, SUVs & Accessories. Hmm come to think of it, a second car might become a necessity if she gets a job, and perhaps I'll just buy a used vehicle and let her drive my car. Anyway my point is that we've put off purchasing from the wish list so often just for our family necessities. Outside of some connections and fringe benefits, I'm your average Joe middle class guy. That's another reason why I'm voting Obama.

I just want one of them circus canons that I can shoot myself out of. That would cover a new gun and a new car.