[Synnen]

I'm not really posting this to debate further what is already in a couple of other threads... but I WOULD like to know what particular scriptures are always being used to justify the anti-gay feeling in Christianity.

The ONLY story I can come up with is the story of Sodom and Gamorrah--so someone please help me out here.

[N0help4u]

Romans chapter one

but as I said people label 'sin' in degrees such as stealing is a lesser sin than killing.
Not so much that all sins are equal because obviously killing is worse than stealing a piece of candy
BUT the issue is more like you believe God or you do not.
If you do not believe then it doesn't matter to you if you please him with your actions/behaviors.

God's intent is husband and wife anything out side of marriage God considers sin.
The Bible says we all fall short.
Basically 'sin' is a result of our hearts not being right with God and therefore we follow
what the Bible calls the lusts of the flesh. So it isn't so much the sin as our hearts not right with God in the first place.

[Choux]

Where are your quotation marks and chapter and verse?

[N0help4u]

Sorry I hadn't looked it up to post yet.

Romans 1
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:



Basically God calls the marriage between a man and a woman holy and sanctified
Anything else --adultery, fornication, homosexuality he calls sin.

[Fr_Chuck]

1 Corinthians 6:9 (Read all of 1 Corinthians 6)
Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
How relevant is this verse to your query?

1 Timothy 1:10 (Read all of 1 Timothy 1)
For the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and for any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

I have just included two from the new testement, to show that it includes it after Christ. The bible is very very clear that homosexual behavior is not acceptable, and those doing it will not be saved.

So to further this, any of the make believe Christians who want to be gay and say they are christians are not really since they deny the very teachings of the bible.

[Choux]

Thanks, Sapph!

[Choux]

These are not Jesus' words; they are words of a former pharisee and his follower, Tim.

Let's see some of Jesus Christ's words, after all it is Christianity, not Judaism-Revised.

[Fr_Chuck]

How about Repent and be baptised. So knowing it is a sin, they need to repent, Jesus loves them and will accept them all back after they repent

[Synnen]

Thanks, you.

I have some reading to do, now :)

[Credendovidis]

WHERE in the Bible are the scriptures about homosexuality?

What value has that knowledge, when we know that the Bible content is (mis)used to support even the wildest and worst claims, while "Commandments" are skipped by believers as they feel needed...

When will believers become themselves examples providing value to the content of the Bible in their thinking and deeds ?

:rolleyes:

[Fr_Chuck]

Because * in my opinion** some of the homosexuals are still looking for a moral justification and want to be able to claim that the bible does not forbide it.

** not saying this is any of these posters agenda,

[Choux]

I would like Chapter and Verse of where Jesus teaches/speaks against homosexuality, Chuck.

Thanks,

[Credendovidis]

Because * in my opinion** some of the homosexuals are still looking for a moral justification and want to be able to claim that the bible does not forbide it.
** not saying this is any of these posters agenda,

With all respect, but reading back this and other topics on the subject, it is hardly moral justification homosexuals seek for their personal sexual preference, but much more questioning why - specifically orthodox hard-core - Christians are so eager to condemn homosexuality as moraly wrong.
Just belief in God and/or the Bible is not sufficient for that, as all Christians have besides their belief also a brain that can be used to (in)validate their own intolerant position towards homosexuals.

:rolleyes:

[Fr_Chuck]

But for a Christian and it should be for all, the bible is the final word, the guideline to compare behavior to and the way of life for us to follow.
The bible is not and can never be just one item used, it is the deciding factor when other things disagree.

As for Jesus, the bible says in many places, the bible being inspired by God, you either accept God's word or you don't.

[Choux]

So, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.

[Credendovidis]

But for a Christian and it should be for all, the bible is the final word, the guideline to compare behavior to and the way of life for us to follow.

For a Christian it should be. And you BELIEVE it should be for all...

:D

[Credendovidis]

So, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.

Where some of the disciples not rather "funny" guys ?

:rolleyes:

[Fr_Chuck]

I am sure Peter had a lot of great jobs about the shepherd and the tax collector, but no if they were gay or homosexual at any point they would have repented from that sin as they did all the old sin in their life, but no we are not told that was any of their sin, but other sexual sin, such as a harlot is addressed.

[Credendovidis]

I am sure Peter had ...

You are sure... Based on WHAT ?

;)

[sassyT]

These are not Jesus' words; they are words of a former pharisee and his follower, Tim.

So, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality

Let's see some of Jesus Christ's words, after all it is Christianity, not Judaism-Revised.

There entire Bible, every word is "The Word of God" and since Jesus is God, those are His words.