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    msplumby Posts: 6, Reputation: 1
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    Mar 22, 2008, 09:21 AM
    Replacing shut-off valves
    I'm wanting to replace my shut-off valves for my sink and toilet. If I cut off the current connection, I don't think I'll have enough room for a push connect 1/4-turn valve. The copper pipe is 5/8" wide. The copper pipe shouldn't be showing like this anyway, should it? What can I do?

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    Mar 22, 2008, 10:23 AM
    Is that valve screw on? It looks like it is.
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    Mar 22, 2008, 10:34 AM
    Knuck, This is a compression angle stop.
    Plumby, This will be a easy replacement. Simply purchase a 1/2 X 1/4" chrome compression angle stop. Shut the water off to the house and remove the old stop. Now,leave the old 1/2" compression nut and ferule on the pipe and replace the old with the new using the old nut. Good luck, Tom
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    Mar 22, 2008, 10:59 AM
    I want to replace old eustachian plate and the nut and get it so that the copper pipe is not showing at all. I have 3 of these, 2 for the sink and 1 for the toilet, and all 3 have different lengths of the copper coming out of the wall.
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    Mar 22, 2008, 12:07 PM
    This makes it a bit more complex because you can't get the old nut and ferule off with cutting the copper pipe and I am not sure you'd have enough pipe left to attach a new compression fitting. The escutcheon won't come off without removing both pieces.Does the pipe have any movement in and out of the wall? They do make plastic escutcheons that look like chrome and can be spread/flexed to fit onto and existing pipe that has an attached fitting but that would still leave you with the old valve and copper pipe showing.
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    Mar 22, 2008, 03:00 PM
    Who is the lousy painter?

    Unless you have some wiggle room, like being able to pull the pipe slightly, you have few options.

    See what Plating Kits Electroplating Kits Aluminum Anodizing Kits Powder Coating Systems Metal Polishing And Buffing Supplies - Caswell Inc. has to offer. You may be able to electro-chrome plate with a penlike device. I'll let you check out the site.

    My plans are to epoxy paint the estucheon black and a worn chrome plated copper angle stop that has an extension.
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    Mar 22, 2008, 03:05 PM
    If this were me I would not go through the trouble and would just paint the escutcheon, stop and piping all white. Your other pipes may have more length sticking out into the room so cutting and installing new chrome is an option for them. Chances are 99.99% that the copper pipe is sweat fitted inside the wall so unscrewing it is not an option.
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    Mar 22, 2008, 04:27 PM
    I've decided to just paint it all and let it be. Thank you for all your input! I was hoping there was some trick that I didn't know about.

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