[firmbeliever]

Just yesterday a 21 year old young man jumped off a building and died in my community.

I remember when I was in Middle or even High school, suicides were rare and it used to shock us to hear about such an incident.
Recently I have noticed that the statistics of suicides seems to be on the rise.
I wonder why this happens...

More than that I wonder those who have settled and matured in life, those who has had suicidal thoughts.
How did you get over them and what made the difference in your life for you to change those suicidal thoughts into something better.

I hope at least some will reply, even those who have friends or family who has gotten over such thoughts and found better lives.
And those who have lost loved ones to suicide,please do share with us.

I would like to have a thread full of good advise and support for those who wish to get over such thoughts and build better lives for themselves and their families.

Thanks in advance.

[Choux]

Aren't almost all suicides of young people caused by **depression**. I believe so according to statistics in America; however, I know you don't live in America, so there may be that and other cultural influences that effect young people in Islamic countries. For example, I know that homosexuality is punishable by be-heading in a public square in Saudi Arabia... perhaps, the young man was homosexual and in despair? In America, a young homosexual man can have a lot of positive support for this sexual orientation. I was just giving an example because sex is always on the minds of young people.

People who comment that they are "depressed' or that they see no reason to go on with life, and other negative comments,. these are people who are in potential danger of having suicidal thoughts, and a desire to die.

Dealing with suicidal people REQUIRES a professional, like a psychiatrist. Medication and intensive therapy can help immensely. Regular people do not have the skills to deal with the situation and what they say oftenmakes the situation worse. It is important that the person who falls into depression get help as soon as possible for it gets worse as time passes over the years.

Have a good weekend, firmbeliever.

[firmbeliever]

I am not in a very strict community and I do not think that was the reason this man committed suicide.
Almost all the cases we have had are due to lovers tiffs or some other relationship problem.

I remember sometime ago there was a girl who killed herself because she got bad grades(At least that is what was said was the reason.)


EDIT:::Oh I forgot,
And Drugs!

[shygrneyzs]

When I was a senior in high school, I really thought hard about committing suicide. Actually I had first had the thoughts when I was in eighth grade. What pulled me out of the pit in eighth grade was my teacher. She kept telling me that the next year would be better. She said everyone has those times where the dark shuts out the light but that the darkenss could not claim my soul. She said she prayed for me every day. That impressed me - no one ever told me that they thought that much of me, to pray for me. I changed my attitude and the next year was better, as far as school goes. Home was not ever much better.

But when I got to be a senior, it just was all too much - by that time my Mom was drinking heavily on a daily basis and I never knew what to expect when I came home. If it had not been for the fact I had to protect my younger brother - I might not be here. Realizing that life was larger than my own world, it was time to be the adult, accept responsibilities and go on. Not being able to change my Mother really bothered me but all I did know how to do was to keep my brothers out of her line of fire. Committing suicide would have been the most selfish thing in the world to do. And it would not have solved any problems. It would have created more.

[FrOsT_bItE]

My aunty's boyfriends brother committed suicide. It consumes you mentally and emotionally. He had to quite his job as a police officer because on a certain day when he was on duty, he had to go to a lady's house and clean up the blood on the floor (she committed suicide by hanging herself) He had to quite before it got worse because every time he entered and exited that house, he thought always of his brother. It was a heavy burden on his shoulders, and I think it's scary and stupid that people would kill themselves. However, I do agree with you on the suicidal rising. I don't know why people would be so stupid to do these things.

[firmbeliever]

Thank you for sharing Shy.

Thank you Frost-Bite.

[Choux]

I was just giving a possible cultural example for a Muslim suicide.

Anyway, my brother killed himself a couple of years ago. It was like a punch in the stomach when I was told the news. It wasn't a surprise, but unexpected. He was about 54 years old and recently in a nursing home. Previously, I attempted to help him by sending him to a place to get therapy and recommending a 12 Step Program(I had learned a lot in a 12 Step Program), but he wouldn't go the 12 Step route.

He was very mentally deteriorated when he killed himself in the nursing home. In his youth and going forward, he had a problem with alcohol and drugs and manic depression psychosis. Tragic waste... major mental illness is life destroying, but an individual can help his/herself to live better than they got.

[firmbeliever]

Sorry for your loss Choux.
Thank you for sharing.

[KBC]

Hi all,

My story goes like this,

In the second grade I had repeated grandmal seizures with 8 marked repeat seizures,my mind took an alternate route and practiced what is explained to me now as biofeedback, the ability to fight seizures, I remember the episodes very clearly.

Somewhere around 7-8, I began to have what is now labeled ADHD, my family sent me to a Psychiatrist to see what could be done, I remember him just sitting there asking very little and wasting time,It didn't do me much good,I felt rejected and didn't trust too many adults after that.

Soon after I sought relief from the my hyperactivity through any number of outlets, eventually ending with alcohol.(Mother drank excessively, Father some but not too much,enough to have PLENTY of it in the house at all times.)

I am not sure when the depression and suicidal thoughts began,some time within this age range.

I began to isolate from school mates, family, and neighbors, feeling that I would be judged for my drinking(probably should have) and judged for my hyper and depressed behavior, learning to avoid confrontation unless I had my shield(alcohol and eventually drugs) to protect me.Within a few years I attempted my first suicide(Overdosed on amphetamines),this landed me in my first psychiatric unit at age 14.( where I had a real traumatic time, an adult unit)

They did not medicate me being so young(I wish they had some days, but the side effects we wonder about, might have been different than today's meds, ask me sometime about them some other time)

So, I returned to even more drugs eventually living daily on one form of street drug to another till I was forced into a rehab at 16( this time with peers)Rehab was a blessing and a curse, I was suddenly aware of my need to escape, some of the fog of the past was being lifted, I was not well balanced mentally, and drugs couldn't be an escape without deep regret and increased anxiety, the steel trap was closing with my head in it,I was desperate. My next suicide attempt was shortly after. This one landed me back in the psych unit and with new information, they began deeper study of what made me tick.

I escaped from their care and got Very drunk,only to be escorted by the local police, back to the unit, I was subsequently discharged for misconduct and sent on my way, a threat to myself and society( great system that)

More drugs and more regret/shame followed till I tried a geographical cure( moved 100's of miles away, and it did work, for a while) I wholeheartedly wanted to be 'normal' so launched my AA career... LOL I totally immersed myself in the 12 steps of AA,thinking the whole time that AA was the cure all for my imbalance.It did help by keeping me off drinking( which causes depression) and drugs( which caused euphoria and then even deeper depression),but I still had a long way to go(Good read so far? Its all very real:))

I soon got married and I was TOTALLY CURED OF ALL MY AILMENTS( hrumph)Who do we find to marry( as addicts with chemical imbalances) but a bird of the same feather,this started 10 years of pain,hardship,and children whom had to live through all the mood swings of both parents,covered up by drugs and drinking,always to excess.

In the end of this marriage my depression, and self loathing reached an epic proportion,I had quite a few episodes with alcohol poisoning, drug overdoses, and failures due to this behavior.I was hospitalized many times for this, finally receiving medications for manic depression at the ripe age of30( A proper diagnosis due to the fact I GOT HONEST WITH THE PROFESSIONALS, I began to trust the medical community, only due to the constant failures on my part to treat myself!! )It was a leap of faith.

I have since had many episodes,while on meds and off them(I have not accepted my mental disability whole heartedly all the time)(STUBBORN) and some further suicide attempts totaling 9, each one a little more drastic than the last,but never successful( hmmm wonder why? I really don't want to die,I just need, desperately, the help)

Today I am in a stable lifestyle with little stress( if you call a 21 yr old daughter no stress) and enjoy most of my time, winter months are my hard times, with the lack of sunlight(SAD) Mid November through mid March are not always pleasant, I go in the hospital as needed for help( if therapy fails and meds can't be regulated to a therapeutic rate before I get too far) Yes, treatment for depression is still in need of more adjustments and is still inadequate in most areas,especially the rural area I live in.

I realize this is a very lengthy response, but I sincerely hope it will help someone looking for a light at the end of the depression tunnel,it really is there,we have to be WILLING to accept help, and I know, while depressed, you don't have it in you to accept much,trying is all I can ask.Life is all I seek,can you?

Anyone can PM me for further chat,E-mail if you want,If I can help, I will! Remember, it sometimes takes a person who has been there to help another through a tough time, also, it does the person helping, greatly, to be able to supply help,sometimes even more than the one asking for it.

KEN

[firmbeliever]

Thank you Ken.

[N0help4u]

One thing I am sure is that many people are on drugs for depression and similar mental issues and the drugs effect some in ways that they do not effect others.
In 1992 my ex was put on prozac and he beat my daughter and went to jail for 6 months.
The month after he went to jail I was watching Phil Donahue and it was about how people on Prozac were killing themselves. They were saying that some of the incidents you hear of people getting on the highways on the ramp going the wrong way did it cause they were on Prozac. One girl said the only thing that only reason she didn't get in traffic going the opposite way was because she kept telling herself "It is my mother's car"
When people are on these drugs they are aware that something isn't right but it has them too numb to reason through it to see it is the meds PLUS they trust the doctors and think it is a good thing. They said that Del Shannon use to go around schools preaching against suicide then the doctors got him on Prozac and he killed himself.
Also many of the people that are on anti depressants are also on street drugs and alcohol and the combination is a deadly prescription for suicide.

[sawyera bisiga]

About 5 months ago I tried to kill myself by grabbing a fallay knife and cutting my wrists all the way to my elbows but the were really deep on both wrsts. Luckly 2 of my friends were their and the walked in the room to see me passes out on the floor with a huge puddle of blood. That was a stupid decision I was deppresed and I thought I was to fat so I learned to dela with my obesity and right now I'm anerexic and balimic. I've lost over 37 pounds in the last 3 monthes

[firmbeliever]

Thank you N0h4,
For sharing.

Sawyer,
Thank you for sharing and I do hope you are getting medical help for your bulimia/aneroxia.


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Yesterday someone I had known while working at a rehab hung himself.
I think it was the drugs doing the thinking for him.
He has two other in his family who used to use drugs,but they cleaned up their life, got trained and are in well paid jobs.
This one never stopped and not for lack of support from his family.They even tried to get him away from where he was and provided him with avenues to study or train.

It did not work.
Seems he had been threatening to commit suicide for a few days,not sure what his parents had been doing about it.

In the end he hung himself in his room.
I am not sure what to say anymore...

[e419]

At one point in my life I had thought about it. I was in a position I hated, and felt I couldn't live with, I become a cutter to deal with some of the pain but the thoughts never really went away. When I was a sophomore in high school one of my closest and only friends sommited suicide. The aftermath of that was the most horrible thing I have ever had to deal with it took me several years to get to the point to were I could even think about it with out crying. I can only imagine what it was like on his Family. After that I saw how much pain you actually put people though no matter if you think nobody cares. People care there's always someone who will be completely devistated. Not to sound like an and I'm not trying to say that I still don't miss or care about my friend but I've come to realize that suicide is one of the most selfish things anyone can do. After seeing all that happened and what it does to people I can honestly say that no matter how hard gets and how alone I feel at times I will never (and I mean ever) even let that thought into my head again.

[Megg]

Well ill say I felt like killing myself most when I was in 11th grade, I felt like killing myself. Why? Bc my parents weren't there, my friends betrayed me and no one gave a rat's bum. So I figured who gave a crap about me? No one. So why not end it. No one's going to care on way or the other. --If you want more info just read preivous posts. Anyway, I know what its like to feel depression. I had it all my teen yrs. I still get depressed. Why? Because my dad is dying, he's a jerk and my mom has Pick's so she's dying. And because its Thanksgiving. . So my grandpa's death is a reminder. If your having suicide thoughts.. I will help if possible. This goes for anyone. If you want more info just let me know. Peace :-)

[Thisby649]

I had suicidal thoughts, in believe it or not, grade 4! I luckily snapped out of it by grade 5 after writing around 5 very deep songs and some additional poems. Strangely enough, writing was helpful.

[IheartEdward]

One of my good mates committed suiside in early September and it shock us all. You just never know what people are thinking, everyone gets to the point sometimes were they wonder what is the point in living. Its most teens and they think no one cares about them but if you did want to harm yourself just imagine that you had a child that committed suiside, that would be terrible.

[Mrcuddlesworth]

I know this sounds a little bit stupid coming from a 13=year old
but where I live if you have one flaw in your personality or what u look like u get criticized about almost every second. I am a fat tall male and 8th grade.
ever since grade 5 I've heard fat jokes and everything and from grade 5 I've had suicidal thought that was the only thing was listening to myself make up story on how I kill myself and everyone reacts. Around June I got really really depressed and I was rememebering every bad thing that has happened to me
I looked in my room in a crying rage and I remebered when my friend committed suicides.
so I grabbed the knife and put the sharp tip on my ankle and pushed har din and down it went. I think cutting yourself and thinking of suicide helps ease the pain.
in my town everyone is either getting drunk or high.

[firmbeliever]

Mrcuddlesworth,
I do hope you are searching for help through another adult or school counsellor or your parents or through an online group like this one-
Suicide Help, Suicide Prevention Online, Suicide Help For Suicidal Teens, Suicide Information, Guidance, Referral

[Mrcuddlesworth]

See I can only trust internet groups because my parents twist everything I hate them so so much, my school counsellers suck and I only trust one adult my older brother but he lives in camrose