[Flickit]

Run from converted garage to house is approximately 34' long with around 90 degrees of bends (2-45's minus a slight angle coming out of the garage). I'm assuming it is best to add a vertical cleanout at the garage and at the house. Is this required? As for the 18" of clearance...is this regarding access to the cleanout(s)? In other words should there be a 'clear' radius of 18" surrounding the cleanouts or am I interpreting the code incorrectly? Does a Tee do the job?

[speedball1]

Hi Flick,

Your first cleanout should be 18" from the foundation. Then Section 704.2/ chapter 7 of the Standard Plumbing Code dictates 50' apart in horizontal drainage lines and section 704.4 says a cleanout shall be installed at each change of direction of the building drain greater then 45 degrees.
Good luck, Tom

[Flickit]

hi Flick,

Your first cleanout should be 18" from the foundation. then Section 704.2/ chapter 7 of the Standard Plumbing Code dictates 50' apart in horizontal drainage lines and section 704.4 says a cleanout shall be installed at each change of direction of the building drain greater then 45 degrees.
good luck, Tom

Tom,
Does this mean I only need one at the exit and not anywhere else or is this the accumulated bend the code is referring to?
Flick

[speedball1]

"Run from converted garage to house is approximately 34' long with around 90 degrees of bends (2-45's minus a slight angle coming out of the garage)."

Looks like a 90 degree bend to me. Regards, Tom

[Flickit]

"Run from converted garage to house is approximately 34' long with around 90 degrees of bends (2-45's minus a slight angle coming out of the garage)."

Looks like a 90 degree bend to me. Regards, Tom

So this means another cleanout near the house? Might be obvious to you but I can lost between right after the second 45 or right before (18") the house.

[speedball1]

Hey Flick,

Two 45's make a 90 degree bend and code calls for a cleanout at every bend greater then 45 degrees. How ever I consider that overkill, ( as I do a lot of code restrictions) so if you're not permitted and there won't be a inspection Just skip it. If you did pull a permit check local codes for a exemption. Cheers, Tom

[Flickit]

Hey Flick,

Two 45's make a 90 degree bend and code calls for a cleanout at every bend greater then 45 degrees. How ever I consider that overkill, ( as I do a lot of code restrictions) so if you're not permitted and there won't be a inspection Just skip it. If you did pull a permit check local codes for a exemption. cheers, Tom

Can always count on you. Bought the Tee's and other paraphernalia this morning so I think I’ll do it right. Thanks, again!

[theBigkill]

Just to add id say that it would be wise (if someone hasn't said it yet) to keep the cleanout the same size as the pipe it serves, and technically a cleanout is supposed to be designed to rod in the direction of flow but I don't think the tee is a deal killer anyway.
- good luck man

[Flickit]

just to add id say that it would be wise (if someone hasnt said it yet) to keep the cleanout the same size as the pipe it serves, and technically a cleanout is supposed to be designed to rod in the direction of flow but i dont think the tee is a deal killer anyways.
- good luck man

Thank you. This one looks like it's made for cleanouts... don't remember the name, though.

[speedball1]

Flick,
" This one looks like it's made for cleanouts...don't remember the name, though."
If it's a tee with a cleanout cover already installed then you have a "clean out tee" that we use mainly on vertical stacks for a first floor or basement inside cleanout. We don't use them much outside in a trench because covering the trench tends to hide them. We use a combination wye and eighth bend, (or in the case of a shallow trench a sanitary tee) on the sewer line and raise to a cleanout set at ground level.
Cheers, Tom

[Flickit]

Flick,
" This one looks like it's made for cleanouts...don't remember the name, though."
If it's a tee with a cleanout cover already installed then you have a "clean out tee" that we use mainly on vertical stacks for a first floor or basement inside cleanout. We don't use them much outside in a trench because covering the trench tends to hide them. We use a combination wye and eighth bend, (or in the case of a shallow trench a sanitary tee) on the sewer line and raise to a cleanout set at ground level.
Cheers, Tom

Tom,
It's a Nibco 5811-C Two-way cleanout. Did I do good? Hope so... have to pick these things up when Home Depot has them in stock!
Flick

[speedball1]

It's a Nibco 5811-C Two-way cleanout. Did I do good? Hope so... have to pick these things up when Home Depot has them in stock!
Flick

Two way cleanout tees should be installed only in the center of a long sewer run where you may have to snake back to the house. It is not advisable to snake against the flow inside the confines of the house drainage system. I have seen plumbers who have sent a heavy sewer snake back into the house, came up under a toilet and broke the bowl. We use sanitary tee or combo to direct the snake outwards with the flow once it gets into the sewer pipe. Regards, Tom

[Flickit]

It's a Nibco 5811-C Two-way cleanout. Did I do good? Hope so...have to pick these things up when Home Depot has them in stock!
Flick

Two way cleanout tees should be installed only in the center of a long sewer run where you may have to snake back to the house. It is not advisable to snake against the flow inside the confines of the house drainage system. I have seen plumbers who have sent a heavy sewer snake back into the house, came up under a toilet and broke the bowl. We use sanitary tee or combo to direct the snake outwards with the flow once it gets into the sewer pipe. regards, Tom

Well Tom; I'll take your advice and trade these in for 2 sanitary tee's. Good thing I have to go to Home Depot anyway. Thanks... I can picture a broken toilet... what's worse is picturing me on it when the snake comes through! ;)