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    #1141

    Nov 14, 2007, 03:14 AM
    I look forward to you finishing your drawing soon! When I do something like that, I am such a beginner at it that it takes me FOREVER!
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    #1142

    Nov 14, 2007, 10:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    Jan, the night is young yet! :)

    But, I suppose that you need your rest in order to get over the nasty experience that you had last night! :D
    Actually, wouldn't mind an instant replay. :p

    Art is so healing to the spirit!
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    #1143

    Nov 14, 2007, 10:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    So, are these sealers lacquer based, water based or, something else?
    The Liquilam UV (is great because it protects work from effects of exposure to the sun) - liquid laminate is what I use on the canvases. It states that clean up is with mineral spirits, however, I have a line outside where I place my pieces to be sprayed and wear rubber gloves so never have clean up. Drying time is longer with this product. Second coat may be applied 1 hour later. Even though it says clean up is with mineral spirits, it also says wash hands with soap and water.

    The SEM Color Coat (which I buy Clear), second coat can be applied in 5 to 10 minutes. I can't find where it says whether lacquer based or water based but I know it is not as heavy as the Liquid Laminate nor the same texture.

    I have never used anything except soap and water for clean up for hands or arms if exposed to either but if sprayed heavily and allowed to set, clean up may be different. I know that doesn't fit with the normal formulas we think of as either/or water based/lacquer.

    Both remain flexible!

    Hope this information is helpful. I use the SEM on the #100 pound Vellum paper and the Liq-UV on the canvases. Avoid breathing either one. Spray outdoors if possible. :)
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    #1144

    Nov 14, 2007, 10:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    Things are going good. Just busy lately - Hope all of you are well, and I really hope to get my drawing finished soon to post.
    Erica, looking forward to seeing more of your work!! :)
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    #1145

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:13 AM
    I posted something in marriage, and I would really like a few of you to read it and give me some advice... PLEASE!
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    #1146

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:18 AM
    Hi Erica, Jan and Didi! :)
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    #1147

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I posted something in marriage, and I would really like a few of you to read it and give me some advice....PLEASE!
    I'll check it out.
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    #1148

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:20 AM
    Hi Craig, and Jan & Didi - and anyone else I missed. I guess I sounded kind of rude not saying hi to anyone first, sorry :p
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    #1149

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:22 AM
    Originally Posted by Clough
    So, are these sealers lacquer based, water based or, something else?


    Quote Originally Posted by jrebel7
    The Liquilam UV (is great because it protects work from effects of exposure to the sun) - liquid laminate is what I use on the canvases. It states that clean up is with mineral spirits, however, I have a line outside where I place my pieces to be sprayed and wear rubber gloves so never have clean up. Drying time is longer with this product. Second coat may be applied 1 hour later. Even though it says clean up is with mineral spirits, it also says wash hands with soap and water.

    The SEM Color Coat (which I buy Clear), second coat can be applied in 5 to 10 minutes. I can't find where it says whether lacquer based or water based but I know it is not as heavy as the Liquid Laminate nor the same texture.

    I have never used anything except soap and water for clean up for hands or arms if exposed to either but if sprayed heavily and allowed to set, clean up may be different. I know that doesn't fit with the normal formulas we think of as either/or water based/lacquer.

    Both remain flexible!

    Hope this information is helpful. I use the SEM on the #100 pound Vellum paper and the Liq-UV on the canvases. Avoid breathing either one. Spray outdoors if possible. :)
    It is very helpful information! Sounds like the first one is an oil-based product and the second one is a water-based one.
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    #1150

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    Hi Craig, and Jan & Didi - and anyone else I missed. I guess I sounded kind of rude not saying hi to anyone first, sorry :p
    Hey, that's okay! I just kind of pop in and out of places myself.
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    #1151

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:26 AM
    Lol glad I'm not the only one!
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    #1152

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    Hi Craig, and Jan & Didi - and anyone else I missed. I guess I sounded kind of rude not saying hi to anyone first, sorry :p
    Hey, that's okay! I just kind of pop in and out of places myself. We "artistically challenged" :p people are known to do things on the spur of the moment lots of times!

    ++Edit++ Sorry about this additional post. The system was being slow and then I thought of something else to say.
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    #1153

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    Jan, the night is young yet! :)

    But, I suppose that you need your rest in order to get over the nasty experience that you had last night! :D
    Hmmm... did I miss something?

    Hugs, Didi
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    #1154

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    Originally Posted by Clough
    So, are these sealers lacquer based, water based or, something else?




    It is very helpful information! Sounds like the first one is an oil-based product and the second one is a water-based one.
    Both are permanent but one is stronger than the other but you may be right. At this time in the morning, I get a little loopy as you know. :p
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    #1155

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    Are other members of your family as artistically inclined as you, Didi?
    My dad enjoyed building and creating when I was young, my mom did arts and crafts with us. My sister is quite 'crafty', as is my eldest child. My grandmother on my dad's side was a dancer, as was her sister. My eldest daughter, her daughter, my son and I all enjoy writing.

    My dad, my eldest child and I are avid gardeners and my mom enjoys it too.

    I hate to say this, but I really don't feel I am artistically inclined. I dabble at a few things, learn that I don't have much chance at doing each of those things the way I envisioned it, and move on to other things. :P Probably the Gemini in me or something. Hahaha!

    Hugs, Didi
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    #1156

    Nov 15, 2007, 01:42 AM
    Originally Posted by Clough
    Jan, the night is young yet!

    But, I suppose that you need your rest in order to get over the nasty experience that you had last night!
    Quote Originally Posted by grammadidi
    Hmmm... did I miss something?

    Hugs, Didi
    I really gave her a hard time on Tuesday night! But, it was nothing really... I hope that she forgives me! :o
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    #1157

    Nov 15, 2007, 02:00 AM
    Originally Posted by Clough
    Are other members of your family as artistically inclined as you, Didi?
    Quote Originally Posted by grammadidi
    My dad enjoyed building and creating when I was young, my mom did arts and crafts with us. My sister is quite 'crafty', as is my eldest child. My grandmother on my dad's side was a dancer, as was her sister. My eldest daughter, her daughter, my son and I all enjoy writing.

    My dad, my eldest child and I are avid gardeners and my mom enjoys it too.

    I hate to say this, but I really don't feel I am artistically inclined. I dabble at a few things, learn that I don't have much chance at doing each of those things the way I envisioned it, and move on to other things. :P Probably the Gemini in me or something. Hahaha!

    Hugs, Didi
    So, it would seem that your artistic ability has been passed down to you from one generation to the other.

    It is interesting as to how many artists also seem to be avid gardeners. I am and I know that Jan is also.

    It seem to me that there is also an art to gardening. Certainly there is with the harvesting and preparation for food of that which has been grown.
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    #1158

    Nov 15, 2007, 02:02 AM
    Hey there Didi, Craig, Erica and all!
    Talk about popping in and out... I popped out and forgot to pop back in for a bit. I was answering some personal e-mails and realized I was still online with the thread! :)

    Didi, I don't consider all you do as dabbling!! You are amazing. Your family sounds blessed with talent in all the arts.

    Craig, you are forgiven for being such an artist!! LOL :)

    Erica, keep posting. Sometimes art is a great way to work through life's issues!

    Where is Cal? Am missing FirmBeliever again and so many others that have not posted in a bit.

    I am getting a little unable to process my thoughts so better say good night. So... goodnight and sweet dreams to all! :) Hope to catch each of you on the thread tomorrow perhaps??
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    #1159

    Nov 15, 2007, 02:07 AM
    I too, am missing the others!

    Thank you for for forgiving me! I just can't help myself, sometimes! :o
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    #1160

    Nov 15, 2007, 02:21 AM
    Craig - thank you so so so much for all of your help. Everything I've ever needed advice on, or just a listening ear, you've totally been there. I really appreciate it deeply!

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