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    Sep 19, 2005, 05:21 PM
    Jesus and God
    1 John 2:1
    MY little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:


    An advocate is someone who pleads another's case before a judge, in this case God. I remembered this verse two days ago and wondered how Jesus Christ fills the role of advocate for sinners, and when. John is writing of future sins. What does it mean to you?


    Another verse is Luke 6:12
    And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.

    What does this mean to you?



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    Sep 20, 2005, 08:18 AM
    Jesus And God
    JESUS AND GOD

    Yes, the elder John was writing to the church (believers).

    However, the word "advocate" in the Greek is "parakletos, advocate, supporter, backer, helper, Paraclete." THUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE "ADVOCATE" OF THE FATHER WITH US. It is The Holy Spirit who speaks conviction in the heart of the sinner that he/she needs a Saviour. It is The Holy Spirit who then baptizes us into the Body of Christ once we accept Jesus as Saviour. It is The Holy Spirit who is "convincing" the sinner that he/she needs a Saviour -- Jesus!

    It is then The Holy Spirit ("Comforter:" Parakletos) who consoles, strengthens, helps, counsels, etc. with such authority as a legal advocate has for his client.

    As applied to Christ, the meaning is that of "Advocate WITH the Father" (I John 2:1-2) -- "HE'S PLEADING OUR CASE -- THE BELIEVER!"
    Christ is our defense attorney, and IN GOD'S COURT the DEFENDER must be, and is, sinless! [B][I]Thank God for our sinless Attorney![B][I]


    Blessings,
    Bobbye
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    Reference Sources: "Zondervan Pictorial Bible Dictionary" and "The NIV Study Bible" (Zondervan).
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    Sep 21, 2005, 09:42 AM
    Advocate
    Will Jesus be our advocate and our judge? Will he defend us in front of the Father?


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    Sep 23, 2005, 11:43 AM
    This Greek translation is not at all accurate, excuse me for saying but did not
    Jesus speake aramiac like all Jews then who wanted to keep up the TENACK the TORAH and not RABINIC inventions?

    Greek is not a semitic language, so here you have trickery again with Gospels written in a totally different language and dilivered by his own enemies with anouminous authurs.

    Jesus never claimed to be God, the son or any of the above God but that he was sent by God,

    I agree that Jesus will Judge those who claimed he was God, his Son, cousin or a 3 piece set of furniture to blame for there sins on with blame games thinking they can escape there own sins rather then simply doing God's will like Jesus told them.

    Further for, with Pauline Christianity; Paul, not Jesus, is primarily responsible for the current Christian creed based on the doctrine of the Trinity (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit). Saul was a Jew who reportedly persecuted the early Christians. His name was later changed to Paul, probably because the name Saul was associated with Judaism. One day on his way to Damascus, Paul had a vision that resulted in his conversion. Following this incident, Paul became the most ardent missionary of Christianity. (Noss 466-467) In his book “The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History,” Michael Hart lists Muhammad first, followed by Paul, and then Jesus. Hart proposes that the honor for the spread of Christianity has to be shared between Paul and Jesus. Apparently Paul won because he wrote more books of the Bible than any other author, whereas Jesus did not write a single word. It should also be noted that Paul never even met Jesus

    Since Jesus did not write any of his teachings, historians are generally in agreement that the writings that have come down to us in the New Testament have been amplified with the predispositions of the early Christians, thus displacing the original teachings of Jesus.(Noss 446) More than three centuries after Jesus was reportedly crucified, there were many controversies and minutiae surrounding his status. Emperor Constantine called the first ecumenical council of the Christian church in ancient Nicaea (now Iznik, Turkey) in 325 CE to resolve the issue. He hoped that a general council would solve the problem created in the Eastern church by Arianism, a “heresy” first proposed by Arius of Alexandria, which affirmed that Jesus was not divine but a created being. The council condemned Arius and incorporated the non-scriptural word homoousios (of one substance) into what later became known as the Nicene Creed, signifying the absolute equality of the Son (Jesus) with the Father (God). Emperor Constantine then exiled Arius. To differ from the official and final version of this new theology – which essentially stated that Jesus was God incarnate – was blasphemy.(“Encyclopedia Britannica”)

    Christianity later became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Theodosius, and there were attempts at formalization and uniformity within the church regarding the doctrine of the Trinity. This did not stop the controversy, and there were more ecumenical council debates between western and eastern Christians for generations. Western Christian theology eventually dominated. The result was that Christians, particularly in the East, who disagreed with the newly mandated doctrine of the Trinity, were ostracized and persecuted. In some cases, those who rejected the new doctrine were put to death as the concept eventually took hold.

    The Europeans were immersed in paganism when Jesus was born, and it took about eight centuries before all of Europe finally accepted Christianity as their creed. During such a lengthy period, it was only natural that some pagan beliefs and practices were incorporated into the new religion. For example, December 25th was a popular Roman holiday that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, which heralded the rebirth of spring and summer. The birth of the sun became synonymous with the birth of the Son of God, which is now commonly accepted as Jesus’ birthday. The actual birthday of Jesus cannot be precisely determined, as Christians did not begin to reckon time before and after the birth of Jesus until about six centuries after he was born.(Noss 450) Another example of a pre-Christian ritual is the veneration of the evergreen tree in western and northern Europe, particularly in Germany during pagan times, so the “Christmas tree” was added to the birthday celebration of Jesus.



    For thousands of years prior to the birth of Jesus, the Indo-Europeans had developed a tripartite ideology. At the highest level was a “sky god,” who sees all human activity from his heavenly abode. The second part of heaven reflected heroic warriors and raiders supported by a war/thunder god. The third part of this Indo-European belief was the pursuit of happiness – a universal human trait.(Winn 4-5) This tripartite scheme was prevalent in many aspects of Indo-European culture, and is evident even today. Examples include many nations’ flags that are made up of three colors, and governments that are divided into three branches – executive, legislative, and judicial.

    Pre-Christian Europeans ritually sacrificed humans to their pagan gods.(Winn 45-47) As the Europeans gradually started to move away from paganism and adopt their newly discovered Middle Eastern religion – Christianity – the idolatrous tradition of human sacrifice blended harmoniously with the new theology – the sacrifice of God’s only begotten son for the sins of all humanity. The tripartite hierarchy that was so embedded in Indo-European culture for thousands of years played an influential role in the development of a doctrine based on a triune God, viz. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

    So jesus will indeed rise up against those who sought to use his teachings for there own selfish ends, and he will stand as a witness against them in the after life, this is both is revelations and the koran,
    Which states that whether they say he is the son of God, trinity or God himself, Jesus declared his mission clearly to the lost sheep of Israel and as the Massiah and Christ,

    On the last day, God allmighty will raise him up as a witness against those who believed such things as to also seen him as a idol, and Jesus himself will tell them who it is that has this power to do such things as give life and take at death alone, and God will judge between them


    AS for the revelations , Jesus says that he will have those who say they are Jews on there knees for there blasphemy, in my opinion the talmud is not holier then the Torah and far from God.
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    Sep 23, 2005, 07:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by G4-450
    This Greek translation is not at all accurate, excuse me for saying but did not
    Jesus speake aramiac like all Jews then who wanted to keep up the TENACK the TORAH and not RABINIC inventions?

    Greek is not a semitic language, so here you have trickery again with Gospels written in a totaly diferent language and dilivered by his own enemies with anouminous authurs.

    Jesus never claimed to be God, the son or any of the above God but that he was sent by God,

    I agree that Jesus will Judge those who claimed he was God, his Son, cousin or a 3 piece set of furniture to blame for there sins on with blame games thinking they can escape there own sins rather then simply doing God's will like Jesus told them.

    Further for, with Pauline Christianity; Paul, not Jesus, is primarily responsible for the current Christian creed based on the doctrine of the Trinity (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit). Saul was a Jew who reportedly persecuted the early Christians. His name was later changed to Paul, probably because the name Saul was associated with Judaism. One day on his way to Damascus, Paul had a vision that resulted in his conversion. Following this incident, Paul became the most ardent missionary of Christianity. (Noss 466-467) In his book “The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History,” Michael Hart lists Muhammad first, followed by Paul, and then Jesus. Hart proposes that the honor for the spread of Christianity has to be shared between Paul and Jesus. Apparently Paul won because he wrote more books of the Bible than any other author, whereas Jesus did not write a single word. It should also be noted that Paul never even met Jesus

    Since Jesus did not write any of his teachings, historians are generally in agreement that the writings that have come down to us in the New Testament have been amplified with the predispositions of the early Christians, thus displacing the original teachings of Jesus.(Noss 446) More than three centuries after Jesus was reportedly crucified, there were many controversies and minutiae surrounding his status. Emperor Constantine called the first ecumenical council of the Christian church in ancient Nicaea (now Iznik, Turkey) in 325 CE to resolve the issue. He hoped that a general council would solve the problem created in the Eastern church by Arianism, a “heresy” first proposed by Arius of Alexandria, which affirmed that Jesus was not divine but a created being. The council condemned Arius and incorporated the non-scriptural word homoousios (of one substance) into what later became known as the Nicene Creed, signifying the absolute equality of the Son (Jesus) with the Father (God). Emperor Constantine then exiled Arius. To differ from the official and final version of this new theology – which essentially stated that Jesus was God incarnate – was blasphemy.(“Encyclopedia Britannica”)

    Christianity later became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Theodosius, and there were attempts at formalization and uniformity within the church regarding the doctrine of the Trinity. This did not stop the controversy, and there were more ecumenical council debates between western and eastern Christians for generations. Western Christian theology eventually dominated. The result was that Christians, particularly in the East, who disagreed with the newly mandated doctrine of the Trinity, were ostracized and persecuted. In some cases, those who rejected the new doctrine were put to death as the concept eventually took hold.

    The Europeans were immersed in paganism when Jesus was born, and it took about eight centuries before all of Europe finally accepted Christianity as their creed. During such a lengthy period, it was only natural that some pagan beliefs and practices were incorporated into the new religion. For example, December 25th was a popular Roman holiday that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, which heralded the rebirth of spring and summer. The birth of the sun became synonymous with the birth of the Son of God, which is now commonly accepted as Jesus’ birthday. The actual birthday of Jesus cannot be precisely determined, as Christians did not begin to reckon time before and after the birth of Jesus until about six centuries after he was born.(Noss 450) Another example of a pre-Christian ritual is the veneration of the evergreen tree in western and northern Europe, particularly in Germany during pagan times, so the “Christmas tree” was added to the birthday celebration of Jesus.



    For thousands of years prior to the birth of Jesus, the Indo-Europeans had developed a tripartite ideology. At the highest level was a “sky god,” who sees all human activity from his heavenly abode. The second part of heaven reflected heroic warriors and raiders supported by a war/thunder god. The third part of this Indo-European belief was the pursuit of happiness – a universal human trait.(Winn 4-5) This tripartite scheme was prevalent in many aspects of Indo-European culture, and is evident even today. Examples include many nations’ flags that are made up of three colors, and governments that are divided into three branches – executive, legislative, and judicial.

    Pre-Christian Europeans ritually sacrificed humans to their pagan gods.(Winn 45-47) As the Europeans gradually started to move away from paganism and adopt their newly discovered Middle Eastern religion – Christianity – the idolatrous tradition of human sacrifice blended harmoniously with the new theology – the sacrifice of God’s only begotten son for the sins of all humanity. The tripartite hierarchy that was so embedded in Indo-European culture for thousands of years played an influential role in the development of a doctrine based on a triune God, viz., God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

    So jesus will indeed rise up against those who seeked to use his teachings for there own selfish ends, and he will stand as a witness against them in the after life, this is both is revelations and the koran,

    Which states that whether they say he is the son of God, trinity or God himself, Jesus declared his mission clearly to the lost sheep of Israel and as the Massiah and Christ,

    On the last day, God allmighty will raise him up as a witness against those who believed such things as to also seen him as a idol, and Jesus himself will tell them who it is that has this power to do such things as give life and take at death alone, and God will judge between them


    AS for the revelations , Jesus says that he will have those who say they are Jews on there knees for there blasphemy, in my opinion the talmud is not holier then the Torah and far from God.

    Jesus did speak Aramaic in common with all Hebrews in the post exilic period. I have never heard anyone claim that Greek (Koine) was a semitic lanaguage. It was the common language of writing in the fertile crescent after the conquest of Alexander Magnus.

    The language of sacred texts is unimportant. It matters only that the thoughts and meanings are expressed as they were originally intended.

    It is obvious that the writers of the Koran have taken liberties with the history and person of Jesus to serve their own theological purposes.

    Jesus did say that his mission was to the lost sheep of beit-yisrael, but do not forget that in spite of that, he taught and ministered to Samaritans, who were not regarded as Israelites, but as Assyrian mongrels.

    Ultimately, religious truth is what an individual accepts for himself to be religious truth. No other person can decide for another, what path he should take, or what or in whom he must believe.

    God made men free. No man has God's permission to put another chains.

    Your source is: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/foru...641&PN=0&TPN=3

    It is better if a man in a discussion does not send the work of another, but reaches into his mind to see what he has to contribute. God has not given intelligence to man to steal from another, but to use for himself.


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    Sep 23, 2005, 11:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    Jesus did speak Aramaic in common with all Hebrews in the post exilic period. I have never heard anyone claim that Greek (Koine) was a semitic lanaguage. It was the common language of writing in the fertile crescent after the conquest of Alexander Magnus.
    No one here ever claimed greek was as semitic eiethr, LSD again?
    You agreed to one thing I said for once, Jesus did speak ARAMAIC and theGospals where then changed to greek, a latin language.

    But we can see that the Gospels been greek and the authors been mysterious why anyone wrote it and might have there own personal inventions or style to start a official religion of Pagan Rome at those times and also profited from it all. remember also that you have God's word, Jesus and mans blended in a book causing distortion to the messages. Something Jesus' exposed by his own enemies in the Talmud in that time on purpose,

    Remember that Jewish Scholars helped out on these translations too and they did NOT like Jesus and you can read it precisely why and how in the talmud when they felt threatened of him really been a Messiah at that exact time and moment of there life, and don't tell me they where talking about another Jesus like all those website in the defense of the Talmud's when they directly pointed at a Mysterious virgin Birth who they called his mother a Harlot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    The language of sacred texts is unimportant. It matters only that the thoughts and meanings are expressed as they were originally intended.
    That is easy to say, but look at the most miss understood person on the planet, JESUS.
    But your saying the Tenach and the codes, as well as the codes in the Koran which forces the texts to be preserved in the original language to be understood also are not important?
    If we Disregard them they would loose there meanings in the first place since Hebrew and Arabic where not completed languages;
    Example of greek from aramaic
    O Theos means the God
    To Theos means of Gods
    EOS means Sun as well as Son in greek.

    Theos can be both plural or singular, suggesting to translate something from Aramaic to greek will claim that Jesus was the Son of God when it also states he is from God's light and wisdom.

    This evidently also appears to be a problem with the Koran and latin, it was preserved with Arabic letters as codes to prevent corruption as what happened to the Children of israel, again I repeat that this is there argument and not mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    It is obvious that the writers of the Koran have taken liberties with the history and person of Jesus to serve their own theological purposes.
    And it is even more suspicious and obvious that writers of the Gospels who never met Jesus had theirs and as well for those who left out many other books from the collection, and where is your proof that there where writers who forged the Koran, scientist agree no one had such knowledge to explain the splitting of the two oceans as well as rose nebula and the fact that muslims knew the world was round while europe stayed in the dark ages for another 500 years and crucified anyone who even mentioned this from dreadful superstitions and lack of faith in God.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    Jesus did say that his mission was to the lost sheep of beit-yisrael, but do not forget that in spite of that, he taught and ministered to Samaritans, who were not regarded as Israelites, but as Assyrian mongrels.
    Jesus taught anyone who could hear the word of God, the rest who fallowed there fancies cold not get it. nothing new before him as well. and he said that too.

    Also Muslims say that the word "muslim" as a verb was taught by Jesus, means doing the will of God, and no one can judge another who does it good or bad but God himself. this is the link between all faiths.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    Ultimately, religious truth is what an individual accepts for himself to be religious truth. No other person can decide for another, what path he should take, or what or in whom he must believe.
    Well, that depends if the person is evil and recognizes it and bend to goodness no?


    How can a evil person who breaks God's Commandments recognize his mistakes unless he or someone else makes them around him so he can see for himself what the consequences are.

    Or are you insinuating your racist anti semitic islam phobia again suggesting that Islam practices Colonialism as well when it teaches that there is no compulsion in religion, the only book in the world to do so is the koran for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    God made men free. No man has God's permission to put another chains.
    agreed, so Colonialism is a evil and racist trend no?

    Especially occupying and killing thousands of children, dropping Nuclear Boms on japan, no one has the right to choose who dies eitehr do they?
    Anyone who says that are not just criminally insane but criminals against there souls.

    I agree, That we have our free will, we can be good or bad to ourselves, no matter how much our love ones try to convince us what our mistakes are when we repeat them,

    so you and i have no power over peoples actions and place with there responsibilities for them which they have to face and come to terms with do we?

    Is that not what all sacred scriptures teach us, that we are here to be tested before another world?


    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    Your source is: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/foru...641&PN=0&TPN=3

    It is better if a man in a discussion does not send the work of another, but reaches into his mind to see what he has to contribute. God has not given intelligence to man to steal from another, but to use for himself.

    Whether they are my works or others from that site, or whether they are God's words from scriptures which you yourself say is up to people to decide on and now contradicted it, what does it matter if its all the truth?

    Or are you just envious about it all?
    So if you want to know the truth just stick to God's words and not anyone else, Jesus was not God though but his creation, the miracle surrounding the birth of Jesus having no Mother is like the miracle surrounding Adam who have neither Mother or Father but God, only believers understand this though and recognize God.

    If your gonna go out f your way to deceive discussion in order to prove something that is false, sooner or later you will be exposed of your hypocrisy, why not accept the truth in things rather then fighting it?

    Been as islam phobic as you are been makes it only more harder for you to understand things about your fears with muslims, if you really had so much truth to it why do you fear them in the first place?

    So excuse me if you can prove your not racist about muslims or other people, it only takes one reason to be racist, it is very hard to discuss things with someone who has a one sided view, I of-course do doubt you are and hope your not, but its becoming harder to with all the evidence of your attacks on anything good about islam. at least try to explain your reasons before twisting things to win a argument like a hypocrite would.
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    Sep 24, 2005, 10:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by G4-450
    No one here ever claimed greek was as semitic eiethr, LSD again?
    You agreed to one thing i said for once, Jesus did speak ARAMAIC and theGospals where then changed to greek, a latin language., (NOT SO!)

    But we can see that the Gospels been greek and the authors been mysterious why anyone wrote it

    Or are you insinuating your racist anti semitic islam phobia again suggesting that Islam practices Colonialism as well when it teaches that there is no compulsion in religion, the only book in the world to do so is the koran for that. (JIhad is compulsion)

    agreed, so Colonialism is a evil and racist trend no?

    Especially occupying and killing thousands of children, dropping Nuclear Boms on japan, no one has the right to choose who dies eitehr do they?
    Anyone who says that are not just criminally insane but criminals against there souls.

    I agree, That we have our free will, we can be good or bad to ourselves, no matter how much our love ones try to convince us what our mistakes are when we repeat them,

    so you and i have no power over peoples actions and place with there responsibilities for them which they have to face and come to terms with do we?

    Is that not what all sacred scriptures teach us, that we are here to be tested before another world?


    Wether they are my works or others from that site, or wether they are God's words from scriptures which you yourself say is up to people to decide on and now contradicted it, what does it matter if its all the truth? (IT MASTTERSD THAST IT IS NOT TRUE. BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. THER EARTH IS NOT FLAT)

    Or are you just envious about it all?
    So if you want to know the truth just stick to God's words and not anyone else, Jesus was not God though but his creation, the miracle surrounding the birth of Jesus having no Mother is like the miracle surrounding Adam who have neither Mother or Father but God, only believers understand this though and recognize God.

    If your gonna go out f your way to deceive discussion in order to prove something that is false, sooner or later you will be exposed of your hypocrisy, why not accept the truth in things rather then fighting it?

    Been as islam phobic as you are been makes it only more harder for you to understand things about your fears with muslims, (I AM NOT ISLAMOFOBIC - ONLY G5-450ophobic)

    So excuse me if you can prove your not racist about muslims or other people, it only takes one reason to be racist, it is very hard to discuss things with someone who has a one sided view, i of-course do doubt you are and hope your not, but its becoming harder to with all the evidence of your attacks on anything good about islam., (I HAVE MADE NO ATTACK ON ISLAM. I HAVER REPRIMANDED ONE OG ITS NAUGHTY BOYS WHO HAS APOSTATISED AND DOES NOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF HOLY KORAN)

    atleast try to explain your reasons before twisting things to win a argument like a hypocrite would.

    ...

    All you prove by your language is that you are a nasty little person who cannot remember what he has said and often accuses the wrong person for something he has not done.

    Well, if that is how you are, then that is how you are, and it is the Will of Allah, so you cannot be made responsible for your childish behavior.

    My serious advice to you is to get out of this businesss. You have no future as an intellectuall terrorism, because you lack the requisite equipment.

    For one example, you very frequently accuse me of being racist. You do not show what I have written that is racist. If you are Chinese I do not mind. I know you are not Chinese, because Chinese children are always polite.

    For example. I have not said that Islam practices Imperialism. But you say that I have. I have not said it, but the fact that you raise Islamic Imperialism as an issue shows that you recognise the imperialist and colonialisational nature of Islam from its inception to the present day.

    I don't have to say it. You think it, and you said it! I have not remarked in the subject.

    You have a new name. شيطان", Let all good Muslims beware of you.

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    Sep 24, 2005, 10:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Morganite
    . For one example, you very frequently accuse me of being racist. If you are Chinese I do not mind. I know you are not Chinese, because Chinese children are always polite.
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    Ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha :) :D :D

    Racism is Judging a person's CHARACTER by there appearance, ethnicity or culture rather then based on there actions !

    You think all chinese people are nice, well your so blindly racist that you can not see anything over in Communist China, where Osama has the largest Supporters in the world.

    YOUR 100% RACIST for everything you stand if your judgmenets of people is based on there appearance or culture

    Your better get back to school and stop eating chinese MORGAN-STIEN, the MSG is getting into your system and your catching onto a virus now.
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    Sep 25, 2005, 08:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by G4-450
    ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha :) :D :D

    Racism is Judging a person's CHARACTER by there appearance, ethnicity or culture rather then based on there actions !

    You think all chinese people are nice, well your so blindly racist that you can not see anything over in Communist China, where Osama has the largest Supporters in the world.

    YOUR 100% RACIST for everything you stand if your judgmenets of people is based on there appearance or culture

    Your better get back to school and stop eating chinese MORGAN-STIEN, the MSG is getting into your system and your catching onto a virus now.

    You have a new name. شيطان", Let all good Muslims beware of you.



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    Sep 25, 2005, 11:35 AM
    Do not worry, I do not concern myself with others like you do,
    I take my own deeds to account and know God allmighty is aware of what is hidden in my breasts and yours and will judge here and now as well as the hear after, do you?
    0r are you testing your lord, the One God of all worlds, the sustainer, mercifull and all forgiving and immortal?

    I would be careful what you say about believers MORGESTIEN, been a religious Fundamentalist may get you on Gods nasty list, and no one can protect you once your in god's enemies hands, they will chew you up, but of course your trying to do this all along to others with your anti semitic hatred and support for ethnic cleansing around here.

    Here, translate this,if you dare


    rac·ism P Pronunciation Key (rszm)
    n.
    1-The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    2-Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
    Why not share with us why you believe the people who fallow the Jewish faith or the Asian (chinese) people are better then others MORGANSTIEN?

    What God cold only creat them that could not create everything else?
    Funny Gods you pick, you better get that straight cuase so far the people who think like you want to believe that there God is not the same God as others because they have a problem with living in the world with them.. is that your reason too? there can not be another better reason for a racist fundamentalist like you.
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    Mar 15, 2007, 05:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by G4-450
    Do not worry, i do not concern myself with others like you do,
    i take my own deeds to account and know God allmighty is aware of what is hidden in my breasts and yours and will judge here and now as well as the hear after, do you?
    0r are you testing your lord, the One God of all worlds, the sustainer, mercifull and all forgiving and immortal?

    I would be carefull what you say about believers MORGESTIEN, been a religious Fundamentalist may get you on Gods nasty list, and no one can protect you once your in god's enemies hands, they will chew you up, but ofcourse your trying to do this all along to others with your anti semitic hatred and support for ethnic cleansing around here.

    here, translate this,if you dare




    Why not share with us why you believe the people who fallow the Jewish faith or the Asian (chinese) people are better then others MORGANSTIEN?

    What God cold only creat them that could not create everything else?
    Funny Gods you pick, you better get that straight cuase so far the people who think like you want to believe that there God is not the same God as others becuase they have a problem with living in the world with them.. is that your reason too?, there can not be another better reason for a racist fundamentalist like you.



    My name is MORGANITE, not Morgenstein.

    Your anti-Jewish rant is noted, as is your mindless fundamentalism, ignorance, and militancy. You know nothing about the GOD I pick because you present nothing but a godless DIATRIBE as you have done in other forae.

    If you have an argument then present it.

    If not, it were better not to use this forum as your personal pulpit for insulting besmirching others. I refer you to the code for positng and answering and suggest that you consult an intelligent Imam to redraw your position with a correct understanding of the Muslim faith because you do Islam much violence.





    M:(RGANITE




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    May 4, 2007, 10:49 AM
    This argument is totally usless. You are not talking about Christ w/ any type of respect. You're not talking about God w/ any type of respect. You're all arguing about stuff that has nothing to do w/ the Bible, The Torah, The Talmud, or the Quran.
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    May 4, 2007, 10:52 AM
    Why not share with us why you believe the people who fallow the Jewish faith or the Asian (chinese) people are better then others MORGANSTIEN?
    All of you look like the Pharisees and Saducees that Jesus spoke about--more concerned with scholastic (nonfactual and nonsensical at times) argumentation rather than demonstrating the proper way to get to the Kingdom. Its ridiculous to think that I should believe any one of you who can't even treat his brothers within his peer group w/ any kind of agape.

    Fuh get aboud it.

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