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    Aug 29, 2007, 09:12 PM
    Safer Antifreeze
    Everybody knows antifreeze kills pets? Kids too! There is a less toxic propylene glycol formula available. Propylene glycol is actually used in small amounts in some pet chows.

    I changed the antifreeze in my car last night. I used Prestone Low Tox from Advanced Auto Parts. It was $12 for a gallon, maybe the same as regular. Sierra and Evans also make a propylene glycol based antifreeze. It is somewhat less effective than the ethylene glycol. Still at the usual 50/50 it is good down to -26 degrees F. That should cover most of the US. It not, you can use more and go down to -76. It seems a small price to protect out pets.

    The car is an 02 Cavalier and still had the original factory fill and was slightly past the recommended change. It never leaked a drop. In over 100,000 miles I never added anything. The original looked OK and is packed up in a old laundry detergent bottle to be recycled. I try to take care of my pets, car, and environment.
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    Aug 29, 2007, 09:15 PM
    Labman that is good to know, I will spread the word to the people I know. I am so glad that something safer has come out. Cats esp. like the sweetness of the anti-freeze.
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    Aug 29, 2007, 09:22 PM
    The stuff has been available for at least 10 years, maybe 20. With as many kids as get poisoned, I have no idea why the ethylene glycol hasn't been banned. I have heard a teaspoon will kill a cat.
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    Aug 29, 2007, 09:30 PM
    My husband may already use it, as you can tell I stay away from the automotive section. Honestly I have never heard of a child being poisoned from it only cats. I think I will drop a line to one of the Enquirer writers they may do a story on it. Esp at this time of the year when people are getting their cars ready for winter. We have a section in our paper that covers auto issue's. I look forward to hearing if other members have heard of this or if I am just in the dark ages.
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    Aug 30, 2007, 05:45 AM
    I don't know why the original formulas haven't been banned either. I am always checking my car for leaks. In my area, there are so many stray cats. It only takes a few licks on a hot day. Very upsetting.
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    Aug 30, 2007, 05:50 AM
    It puzzles me why it has taken until 1995 for people to start adding denatonium to antifreeze. It was discovered in 1958!
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    Aug 30, 2007, 06:25 AM
    Adding the bitter stuff to the ethylene glycol is a big help.
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