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Aug 16, 2007, 12:21 PM
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Gay People
Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, I am not gay but have friends and family that are. If god made everybody who made gay people if it is such a problem
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:24 PM
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I don't have a problem with them either, and have many friends who are. I think the general consensus with Christians is that they believe it is a lifestyle choice and not a characteristic you are born with... so You actually have a say in whether you are or are not homosexual... and choosing so is a sin. Does that make sense?
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by motherof3
Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, I am not gay but have friends and family that are. If god made everybody who made gay people if it is such a problem
Because there is a passage(s) in the bible about men laying with other males. It does not explicitly say that having a homosexual relationship is wrong, but christians are known to interpret passages as they see fit.
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:27 PM
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B/c in the bible (their holly word) pish posh to me. It says god doesn't like gays. Well to me I think then that this "god" is a lier, fraud and time waster. It's different to be gay. So people get scared and go nuts. Just like they did to people with special gifts they called them witches. Bunch of crap to me.
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by motherof3
Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, ...
This may be true of SOME christians, not all. There are plenty of christians who not judgmental about gay people.
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alkalineangel
I dont have a problem with them either, and have many friends who are. I think the general consensus with Christians is that they believe it is a lifestyle choice and not a characteristic you are born with...so You actually have a say in whether you are or are not homosexual...and choosing so is a sin. does that make sense?
It does make sense, But I don't believe people chose to be I think they are born that way, In a world that is so judgemental why would someone chose to be.
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by motherof3
It does make sense, But I don't beleive people chose to be I think they are born that way, In a world that is so judgemental why would someone chose to be.
I agree with you... but to answer your question the bible says it is wrong, and therefore they believe a God would not make someone that way... therefore the believe it is a choice. But it just doesn't make sense to me that way... Its One of the main reasons I left the christian faith. Too many things that made no sense to me in the bible.
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Aug 16, 2007, 12:47 PM
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The bible was written by man and so his prejudices and his attitudes are ever present. The God that I understand judges the sin and the sinner, I am supposed only to love all my brothers and sisters.
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Aug 16, 2007, 01:20 PM
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If your question had the word "some" before Christians, it would be a very valid one :)
Some people are judgmental about __________. Fill in the blank as you please. Regardless of how it is filled in, the "people" being spoken of are themselves guilty of bigotry or at least unfairness - but often just ignorance... except if the item is an illegal one or one that means harm to someone.
I'm sure that's not quite worded as I'd word it if I sat for a time to compose something more profound, but that's it in a nutshell :)
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Aug 16, 2007, 02:20 PM
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Agree with Rick
Not all Christians are "judgemental about gay people," and
Likewise, and by implication, are all non-Christians [this wonderful ideal of] tolerant.
God is not tolerant of sin, otherwise He would not have sent Jesus to take the place for the consequences of mankind's sins.
All sins : pride, hate, homosexuality, lust etc...
Grace and Peace
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Senior Member
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Aug 16, 2007, 02:27 PM
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Well said, Most religions go against people being gay, in that man was not created to be with another man. As mentioned above, nowhere in religious text does it say anything other than it is not considered proper, just like murder, just like fraud. In response to God hating gay people, that's not a fair statement, again mentioned above, God does not like sin period.
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:16 AM
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Everything wins my vote except sin.
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Aug 17, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by motherof3
Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, I am not gay but have friends and family that are. If god made everybody who made gay people if it is such a problem
My answer: I don't know. There are many judgemental people christian or not. The downfall of living in a fallen (sinful) world. We are asked to love sinner hate the sin. My brother is gay and I am a christian. I don't love him any differently or look at him any differently but I do believe what he is doing is a sin that he needs to personally deal with. Just like my temper is a sin that I need to personally deal with daily.
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Senior Member
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Aug 17, 2007, 10:45 AM
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I don't understand why it's a sin. So gay people can never fall in love with someone an get married? That does not sound right.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 17, 2007, 11:06 AM
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The way it was explained to me when I was catholic was this:
Homosexual couples can not be married, and therefore, any homosexual who partakes in any sexual activity is doing so in sin, Seeing as you are to refrain from pre-marital sex. (sex before marriage is a sin)... What no one could ever explain to me is why the unsexual acts of homosexuality were wrong...
As for the rest of the people who are not christian and have problems, I simply think it was how they were taught. I think it is so wrong they treat people that way.
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Aug 17, 2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by motherof3
Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, I am not gay but have friends and family that are. If god made everybody who made gay people if it is such a problem
Well I'm christian and not all christens are like that but really it's not there fault my aunt is and I'm n not judgemental and hope that helps you!! >>>>
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Aug 17, 2007, 07:23 PM
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All people should be treated with dignity. The problem for me lies where sin is called a good thing. This is a great danger. When we view homosexual activity as just a beautiful expression between to lovers, we are ignoring the fact that there is a sin being committed. People may have an attraction to some one of the same gender. This does not mean they should then always act upon this attraction. Christians must call a sin a sin, but treat everyone with dignity, for after all we have all fallen short. This can be difficult to do with out coming off as sounding judgmental; however Christians should not hide the truth of our faith. Christians should not let modern culture shape doctrine. I believe this is at the heart of many reactions to homosexuality by the Christian faithful. The culture of today is declaring homosexual acts as non sinful. Because of the fall of man, sins abound; however under no circumstances should sins be approved of. We should remember as well, that all people are created in the image and likeness of God and should be treated as such.
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Aug 18, 2007, 06:40 AM
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I cannot speak for all people who label themselves as "Christian," but I can speak for myself:
The way I read it, I have no business judging or condemning anyone, which is good because I really don't think I'm qualified for the job.
I can, however, judge actions, but only for the purpose of providing loving education to the person in an effort to help them see how their actions are contrary to the Word of God. However, even this carries risks, and must be done with wisdom and love and within the boundaries of an already-established relationship with the person.
It's a funny thing, really. If today's Christians poured nearly as much effort into battling illegal narcotics in the world, we might actually begin to see a decrease in violence, crime, gang activity, and addictions. I don't have any stats, but I suspect that the number of people negatively affected by illegal drugs completely eclipses the number of people negatively affected by homosexuality.
I don't really know if I answered your question or not, but there you have it.
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Aug 18, 2007, 09:09 AM
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Nobody knows what really God thinks... But everybody should know that God is forgiving... and if He created a person with an opposite heart... it means He loves that person too... He loves all of his creation.
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Aug 18, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by yamotnako
nobody knows what really God thinks....But everybody should know that God is forgiving...and if He created a person with an opposite heart...it means He loves that person too....He loves all of his creation.
Since we Christians have the Bible, which we consider God's message to mankind revealing his requiremernts and his personality so that we can serve him, what you are really saying is that you have chosen not to believe in the Bible, and that from your standpoint God is incomprehensible. Which of course opens up the way for the anything goes way of life. How convenient!
BTW
No Christian on this forum has represented God as unforgiving. What has been clearly pointed out is that he has requirements which he expects us to respectfully pay attention to. The unforgiving idea is your own.
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