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    #61

    Aug 16, 2007, 12:27 PM
    This is MY opinion αnd well you cαn hαte me αll you wαnt..

    god hαtes sin αnd sinners go to hell

    The end
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    #62

    Aug 16, 2007, 12:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by saraispiel19
    this is MY opinion αnd well you cαn hαte me αll you wαnt..

    god hαtes sin αnd sinners go to hell

    the end

    True your opinion, but I think the reason that passage in the bible makes people think "omg gays are icky" is because you (christians) take one word or passage and turn it upside down and side ways and pull it so far from the meaning it grows into something not even true. No one kno's what some of thee texts mean truly... only the persons who wrote in and guess what... they dead.
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    #63

    Aug 16, 2007, 01:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by sGt HarDKorE
    Well i am beginning to think i am gay and i am wondering if i would be sent to hell for this. I hear all the time on tv about how god hates gays, and im not sure if i am gay but this isnt helping...

    Also what if i kind of do not believe in god? My family is not very church active,
    I am not religious at all but you being gay isn't a bad thing you don't really have a choice in wheather or not you like the same gender as yourself. Besides don't worry what other people will think you are your own person and if you are confident in yourself you will feel so much better. Also who cares what people think, right.
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    #64

    Aug 16, 2007, 06:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by saraispiel19
    this is MY opinion αnd well you cαn hαte me αll you wαnt..

    god hαtes sin αnd sinners go to hell

    the end

    If this were true then EVERYONE would go to Hell and NO ONE would go to Heaven... because EVERYONE sins except for Jesus Christ. So if all sinners go to Hell, then is Jesus all alone up there? Does everyone go to Hell except for Him?

    The answer is no. Therefore, all sinners do not go to Hell, only ones that don't believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior.

    Just thought I'd clear that up.
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    #65

    Aug 16, 2007, 06:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by saraispiel19
    this is MY opinion αnd well you cαn hαte me αll you wαnt..

    god hαtes sin αnd sinners go to hell

    the end

    You mean to tell us that you have never sinned in your entire life?

    I find that hard to beileve
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    #66

    Aug 16, 2007, 06:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lydiagr
    If this were true then EVERYONE would go to Hell and NO ONE would go to Heaven... because EVERYONE sins except for Jesus Christ. So if all sinners go to Hell, then is Jesus all alone up there? Does everyone go to Hell except for Him?

    The answer is no. Therefore, all sinners do not go to Hell, only ones that don't believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior.

    Just thought I'd clear that up.
    So if you don't believe, you go straight to Hell... nice... I thought God was so forgiving, is that not true? If he was so forgiving, wouldn't he forgive those that don't believe?
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    #67

    Aug 16, 2007, 07:01 PM
    I don't no much about being a catholic because my family is not active, but I hope god sends people to heaven based on how good a person they are. I know some catholics/christians who are really bad people, but they believe in jesus christ being a part of god. I don't think those people deserver a better chance.
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    #68

    Aug 16, 2007, 07:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nauticalstar420
    So if you dont believe, you go straight to Hell...nice...I thought God was so forgiving, is that not true? If he was so forgiving, wouldnt he forgive those that dont believe?
    If you didn't believe... and then decide to receive him as your Lord and Savior, of course He will forgive you. He'll forgive you if you ask for it.

    But if you don't believe, then why would you be worried about going to Heaven or Hell? Because if there is no God and no Jesus, then there is no Heaven and no Hell.

    I only meant to say what missconfused said in a different way.
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    #69

    Aug 16, 2007, 07:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lydiagr
    But if you don't believe, then why would you be worried about going to Heaven or Hell? Because if there is no God and no Jesus, then there is no Heaven and no Hell.

    I only meant to say what missconfused said in a different way.
    That is the point I was going to make, but I see why you said that now :)
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    #70

    Aug 17, 2007, 12:38 AM
    Hi I live in Oz I don't see a lot shows that say about gay Someone in my family are gay Actuly its 2 ones a girl & they are both chisrtain & they are open about it and there minster says they won't go 2 hell but in some place that is true what they think of gays. :cool: :)
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    #71

    Aug 17, 2007, 01:01 AM
    hey, am a christian and I strongly believe in God. People say, "am gay and i can not help it" ....... but God has given all of us a gift of choice. You can choose to be gay or you can choose to be straight. Also God doesnt hate sinners or gay people........its what they do that he hates... Theres is a difference. If u read the bible ( new testament) Jesus came to save sinners, He ate and dinned with them.
    God loves you and He is willing to help you through the struggles u have about your Identity. He says He who seeks (looks out for ) him will surely find Him.........................
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    #72

    Aug 20, 2007, 01:55 PM
    I don't know if u joined I church but when I was think same as you they really helped me there are qrite a few gay peeps on there and they descuse the points of sin and repenting here is the link I really think it would help you to talk to them there really nice peeps i-church
    sparky
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    #73

    Aug 20, 2007, 11:48 PM
    well my old town my pastor was gay and he knew all about the word if that makes u feel better
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    #74

    Aug 24, 2007, 12:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sGt HarDKorE
    Well i am beginning to think i am gay and i am wondering if i would be sent to hell for this. I hear all the time on tv about how god hates gays, and im not sure if i am gay but this isnt helping...

    Also what if i kind of do not believe in god? My family is not very church active,
    Screw that.
    Live your life happy, not worrying about what anyone thinks about you.

    AND if there truly is a god, why would he eternally damn on of "his children" to hell for liking someone?

    In past times, there was actually no such thing as straight, bi, and gay.
    Everyone just liked who they liked.
    How we became a race of people who discriminate others based on sexual preferences, I don't know, but it really bothers me.

    And if ANYONE ever gives you about going to hell for this, just ask them "Give me proof that there IS a hell, and then we'll talk."

    =]]

    Be happy, screw others views.
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    #75

    Aug 24, 2007, 12:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Cshe
    hey, am a christian and I strongly believe in God. People say, "am gay and i can not help it" ....... but God has given all of us a gift of choice. You can choose to be gay or you can choose to be straight. Also God doesnt hate sinners or gay people........its what they do that he hates... Theres is a difference. If u read the bible ( new testament) Jesus came to save sinners, He ate and dinned with them.
    God loves you and He is willing to help you through the struggles u have about your Identity. He says He who seeks (looks out for ) him will surely find Him.........................


    Bull.
    You can't choose that.
    People always get for being gay, WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY CHOOSE A HARDER LIFE?:confused:
    The doesn't make a lot of sense.
    Also, certain studies of homosexual cadavers have identified differences in brain structure and an X-chromosome gene not present in heterosexuals.
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    #76

    Aug 24, 2007, 03:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Universal Truth
    It doesn't mean you are gay, it means you have sexual curiousity. It's the equivalent to the people who like pain as pleasure, or just good old fashioned porn. It's a fetish not a sexual orientation.

    The bible frowns upon fetishes though

    The bible may frown on festishes but, to be fair, it was written before Big Busty Beautiful Women Volume 8 was published. Does God have a position on chubby chasing?
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    #77

    Aug 24, 2007, 04:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sGt HarDKorE
    will I be sent to hell?
    God never "sends" anyone to hell
    People send themselves to hell, by denying god



    The bible may frown on festishes but, to be fair, it was written before Big Busty Beautiful Women Volume 8 was published. Does God have a position on chubby chasing?
    Obesity used to be a status symbol, chubby chicks used to be highly desirable
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    #78

    Aug 24, 2007, 09:54 AM
    sGt HarDKorE, I think you have been through a few things that have made you question yourself. I also think that your at the age its okay to be curious about the world around you, and as you've seen by the many different posts, everyone has an opinion they think is right, and that's what they believe and follow. You have a lot to learn about yourself, and the world so do as all young people do and learn. No one can tell you who or what you are, and the best thing about choices (yes you have that) is you can chose to be whatever you want, or live the way you want. Just I would say go slow, and don't jump into anything you don't feel is right for you, and let no one define who you are, but you. As your ideas and thoughts become more solid, as you know yourself, then your path will be clear. If it helps look around you, and see if there is a male figure who you can talk to, whom you trust and look up to, and see if he can give you answers, or directions, for the path you seek, and don't be afraid of what others may throw at you, because God made you from love, and no one can take that from you, no matter what book they throw at you. Very glad you have come here, and hope you stay.
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    #79

    Aug 25, 2007, 04:49 PM
    sorry but the ULTIMATE sin is not beleiveing in God!
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    #80

    Aug 25, 2007, 05:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by scooker94
    sorry but the ULTIMATE sin is not beleiveing in God!
    Guilty! :) Now what happens?

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