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    Jul 27, 2007, 07:42 AM
    Gorbachev says U.S. is sowing world ‘disorder’
    Link to story:

    Gorbachev: U.S. sowing world 'disorder' - Focus on Russia - MSNBC.com


    Bush and his neo-con buddy,
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    Jul 27, 2007, 07:46 AM
    Kind of sounds very eerily similar to the message in the Zeigeist movie.
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    Jul 27, 2007, 07:51 AM
    I think Gorby's full of Glasnost. I stepped in some Glasnost the other day and it took me hours to scrape it all off my shoe.

    Putin is siting there trying to reconstitute his nuclear program and threatening to point weapons at Europe and the USA, but Gorby thinks that Bush is sowing disorder? Oh, please...
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    Jul 27, 2007, 07:53 AM
    Hahahhahahaha "Glasnost". I get it! You equated it to poop! Hahhahahahah, good one.
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    Jul 27, 2007, 08:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.yet
    To be more precise, he is accusing Washington of attempting to build an empire since the Cold War ended…world leadership by a single power. Now when he say’s ‘Washington since the cold war ended,’ just who is he accusing?
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    Jul 27, 2007, 08:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.yet
    “The Americans then gave birth to the idea of a new empire, world leadership by a single power, and what followed?”

    “What has followed are unilateral actions, what has followed are wars, what has followed is ignoring the U.N. Security Council, ignoring international law and ignoring the will of the people, even the American people,”

    “When I look at today’s world I have a worrying feeling about the growth of world disorder,…”
    “I don’t think the current president of the United States and his administration will be able to change the situation as it is developing now — it is very dangerous,”

    “It is a massive strategic mistake: no single center can command the entire world, no one,” he said. “Current America has made so many mistakes.”

    The above is what Mikhail Gorbachev said, and the rest is what Reuters News said. Now you may think differently but it seems to me Reuters News is purposely misleading and this is a blatant attempt to cause friction.
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    Jul 27, 2007, 08:42 AM
    The UN ;one world government... sounds to me that global communism is thus achieved .Not by force of arms... but the willing capitulation of free nations.
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    Jul 27, 2007, 09:28 AM
    No need to have a Gorbasm, why should anyone care that Gorby is still upset over losing HIS empire? I can see it now, Gorbachev will be the new poster child for the rabid left - Cindy Sheehad and Gorbachev hand-in-hand strolling down the mall protesting the war. Perhaps he'll even campaign for her against Pelosi. And by they way Cindy, I have a theme song for your campaign...
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    Jul 27, 2007, 09:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    The UN ;one world government ...... sounds to me that global communism is thus achieved .Not by force of arms ....but the willing capitulation of free nations.
    That stings. Is that what we can expect from Obama since he's willing to negotiate with Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea "without precondition" and "not afraid to lose the PR war to dictators"?
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    Jul 27, 2007, 11:18 AM
    Thanks for posting the link to that article. I agree with Gorby. The US is spreading disorder in the world in its attempt under Bush to build an Empire. I have observed how ham handed Bush has been as a President. With great wealth and power comes great responsibility.
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    Jul 27, 2007, 11:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    Thanks for posting the link to that article. I agree with Gorby. the US is spreading disorder in the world in its attempt under Bush to build an Empire. I have observed how ham handed Bush has been as a President. With great wealth and power comes great responsibility.
    Bush has freed two nations totaling more than 50 million people from two tyranical regimes and has gotten nothing in return for his efforts except ajida... and you call that "empire building"?
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    Jul 27, 2007, 12:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    Thanks for posting the link to that article. I agree with Gorby. The US is spreading disorder in the world in its attempt under Bush to build an Empire. I have observed how ham handed Bush has been as a President.
    Lol, I can't believe some of you people. In one breath you say Bush is a dufus that couldn't find his way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map, in the next you give him credit for destroying the constitution, stacking the Supreme Court and building an empire. Please make up your minds.

    With great wealth and power comes great responsibility.
    EXACTLY! We finally agree. Instead of sitting on his butt "deploring" things and singing Kum-Ba-Ya while the world goes up in a big ball of Jihadist flames like the rest of the world does, Bush did something about it!
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    Jul 29, 2007, 05:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ETWolverine
    Bush has freed two nations totaling more than 50 million people from two tyranical regimes and has gotten nothing in return for his efforts except ajida... and you call that "empire building"?
    The word "freed" is highly debatable.

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