[N0help4u]

For those who want science to 'prove God'

The Bible says god took the unseen things to make the things that are seen
Science discovered atoms, molecules, DNA, etc...

The Bible talks about underwater currents
In the 1800's Matthew Fontaine Maury discovered underwater currents

The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.
Job 28:25
To establish a weight for the wind,
And apportion the waters by measure.

The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world's hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth.[1] (If you are a physics enthusiast, please ignore our omission of the terms mass, gravity, and density from this comment.)

The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.
Ecclesiastes 1:6
The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.

1 Corinthians 15:41
There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

All stars look alike to the naked eye.* Even when seen through a telescope, they seem to be just points of light. However, analysis of their light spectra reveals that each is unique and different from all others.[1] (*Note: We understand that people can perceive some slight difference in color and apparent brightness when looking at stars with the naked eye, but we would not expect a person living in the first century A.D. to claim they differ from one another.)

The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.

Job 26:7
He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.

Leviticus 17:11
'For the life of the flesh is in the blood
The blood carries water and nourishment to every cell, maintains the body's temperature, and removes the waste material of the body's cells. The blood also carries oxygen from the lungs throughout the body. In 1616, William Harvey discovered that blood circulation is the key factor in physical life—confirming what the Bible revealed 3,000 years earlier.


*The bible includes reasonably complete descriptions of the hydrologic cycle.[3]

Psalm 135:7
He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.
Jeremiah 10:13
When He utters His voice,
There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:
“And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth.
He makes lightning for the rain,
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.”

In these verses you can see several phases of the hydrologic cycle—the worldwide processes of evaporation, translation aloft by atmospheric circulation, condensation with electrical discharges, and precipitation.[1]
Job 36:27-29
For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down
And pour abundantly on man.
Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
The thunder from His canopy?

This simple verse has remarkable scientific insight. The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds. These finally coalesce into drops large enough to overcome the updrafts that suspend them in the air.[1]
* The Bible describes the recirculation of water.

Ecclesiastes 1:7
All the rivers run into the sea,
Yet the sea is not full;
To the place from which the rivers come,
There they return again.
Isaiah 55:10
For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven,
And do not return there,
But water the earth,
And make it bring forth and bud,
That it may give seed to the sower
And bread to the eater,
* The Bible refers to the surprising amount of water that can be held as condensation in clouds.

Job 26:8
He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
Yet the clouds are not broken under it.
Job 37:11
Also with moisture He saturates the thick clouds;
He scatters His bright clouds.
* Hydrothermal vents[4] are described in two books of the Bible written before 1400BC—more than 3,000 years before their discovery by science.

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Job 38:16
Have you entered the springs of the sea?
Or have you walked in search of the depths?

We discuss the “fountains of the great deep” further in our Creation Versus Evolution page.

Geology Statements Consistent With Geology

* The Bible describes the Earth's crust (along with a comment on astronomy).

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the LORD:
“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the LORD.”

Although some scientists claim that they have now measured the size of the universe, it is interesting to note that every human attempt to drill through the earth's crust to the plastic mantle beneath has, thus far, ended in failure.[1]
* The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical.

Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word chuwg which is also translated “circuit,” or “compass” (depending on the context). That is, it indicates something spherical, rounded, or arched—not something that is flat or square.

The book of Isaiah was written sometime between 740 and 680 BC. This is at least 300 years before Aristotle suggested that the earth might be a sphere in this book On the Heavens.

This brings up an important historical note related to this topic. Many people are aware of the conflict between Galileo and the Roman Catholic Pope, Paul V. After publishing A Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, Galileo was summoned to Rome, where he was forced to renounce his findings. (At that time, “theologians” of the Roman Catholic Church maintained that the Earth was the center of the universe, and to assert otherwise was deemed heretical.)

We could not find any place in the Bible that claims that the Earth is flat, or that it is the center of the universe. History shows that this conflict, which took place at the time of the Inquisition, was part of a power struggle. As a result, scientific and biblical knowledge became casualties—an effect we still feel to this day. (Where the Bible says circle it is referring to orb or sphere as a ball).

Science and the Bible

This is just some of what God said before man discovered.

They say that many famous people made their discoveries using the Bible.


What are some more you can think of?

[labman]

Although the Bible contains many references to the creation, it is not a science textbook, but instead is about the creator. Science is nothing more than man's best efforts to understand the creation. It can never tell us anything about the Creator.

[N0help4u]

Yeah like I said God made it science discovered it. The question is about science in the Bible. It is science according to mans terms.

[Choux]

Science is about discovering how the Universe really works... about inventing solutions to human problems.

Religion is based on "revelation"... revelation that occurred over two thousand years ago before there was much knowledge, and that knowledge was Greek and Roman. [political science, mathematics, government, ethics, engineering, etal]

Your post is very unconvincing and vague to a fault. In other words, the connections are primarily made up to support your contention that the Bible contains practical science information!!

That is one difference between religion and science... religionists know the answer it *wants* and writes supporting material to support their prejudices.

Science asks what and why is this happening and goes forward with experiments to find out the answer to the scientist's questions. The anwer to the question may be one thing or another or not relevant or anything. Religionists know the answer before the write supporting material! Not exactly honest!!

[inthebox]

Choux

How did the writers of the Bible "know" these facts before "scientists?"


Also the if everyone perfectly followed the last 6 of the 10 Commandments
That would be the solution to a lot of "human" problems. ;)



Grace and Peace

[Choux]

The quotes didn't really say anything **specific** that I saw. As I said, vague to a fault.

Cordially,

:)

[NeedKarma]

Also the if everyone perfectly followed the last 6 of the 10 Commandments
that would be the solution to alot of "human" problems.

You need to read it in a book to know that you shouldn't murder someone or have sex with your neighbour's wife?

[Tj3]

You need to read it in a book to know that you shouldn't murder someone or have sex with your neighbour's wife?

There are people today who still don't seem to know that it is wrong. They haven't read the book, and some even use their religion to justify it.

[Choux]

Laws cover what society considers unacceptable behavior, and crimes are covered that are not listed in the ten commandments.

Rape, specific child abuse crimes, assault, battery, larceny, embezzlement, on and on and on. :)

People know what is a crime, some just don't give a darn as throughout history.

[Soldout]

Laws cover what society considers unacceptable behavior, and crimes are covered that are not listed in the ten commandments.

Rape, specific child abuse crimes, assault, battery, larceny, embezzlement, on and on and on. :)

People know what is a crime, some just don't give a darn as throughout history.

All these that you have mentioned can catagorised in the ten commandments. For instance rape is sexual sin and can be catagorised under thou shall not commit adualtary, embezzlement is under you shall not steal. Seriously do you really think God would have to write every single sin/crime for it to make sense? It think you get the point. That is just splitting hairs.. Then it would be The 500 thousand Comandments instead ot 10 comandments.

[Soldout]

yeah like I said God made it science discovered it. The question is about science in the Bible. It is science according to mans terms.

You are so right! People don't realise God created Science.. He created all that we call science so there should not be a separation or a rivalry between God and Science. God knows more about science than all the knowledge of all the Scientists who have ever lived combined and multiplied by infinity because he created it all.

All the verses you have quoted Prove that Bible is devinely inspired. It was written thousands of years ago and yet it contains descriptions of scientific processes that were only descover a few centuaries ago. None of it is vage. It is very explisit if we consider that it was written by man before any such knowledge was even close to being discovered.

Those who say it is vage are in serious denial. The earth is suspended...
Job 26:7
He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.

THE water Cycle explicitly described
Job 36:27-29
For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down
And pour abundantly on man.

There is nothing Vage about this. Who knew even 500years ago that there was even a relationship between droplets of water and clouds?

[NeedKarma]

there is nothing Vage about this. Who knew even 500years ago that there was even a relationship between droplets of water and clouds?

Are you saying that evaporation cannot be observed by man?

[Soldout]

Are you saying that evaporation cannot be observed by man?

Yes! Evaporation in the "water cycle" can not be observed by man. I have never seen water evaporating form a lake or from a plant. Besides Even if water vapor could be obeserved the knowledge that it forms clouds was just disovered recently by scientists and yet it was in the Bible all along

[NeedKarma]

When do think that man first observed the process of evaporation? Maybe soon after the discovery of fire? While boiling some liquid and noticing steam rising? Maybe it was a little later when someone put an overturned pot on the hot ground and noticed condensation inside?

[Soldout]

Maybe it was a little later when someone put an overturned pot on the hot ground and noticed condensation inside? This sounds like a stretch but I thinkyou are missing the point, you not addressing the most important part of the argument; The relationship between water vapor and clouds as it applies to the water cycle. Is'nt that a recent scienific discovery?

[NeedKarma]

The relationship between water vapor and clouds as it applies to the water cycle. Is'nt that a recent scienific discovery?

Uh no.

[Soldout]

Uh no.

Okey... and I suppose the discovery that the world is suspended in air is not very recent either? Mmm. No I don't think so. All this scientific info was discovered within the last few hundred years and yet it was has been there all along in a Book that is thousands of years old.