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    Dec 14, 2008, 11:56 AM
    Emergency heat on, Aux heat off, fan working.
    I do have heat.

    The fan outside is working on the heat pump. Inside unit is on.

    Heat Pump is set to Aux heat, with AUTO for fan. But the Aux heat is NOT what is on. The Aux light is OFF.


    I do NOT have it set to emergency heat, but the emergency heat light is ON. :eek:

    What is causing this?

    What parts do I need to have to fix this? :confused:

    A friend came over, and we replaced the capacitor already.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:09 PM

    Is the bower inside running?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    Is the bower inside running?

    Yes, the blower is on inside. Everything is working (it is warm), it seems anyhow, but the emergency light is on instead of the aux heat light. This makes me think that I am using the heat strips instead of the heat pump. I do not want a $700 light bill. I have only a tiny income, and that is almost all my income.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:20 PM

    Is it possible that the heat pump is by chance in defrost? Or maybe it has an outdoor thermostat installed? Is the heatpump (outside) still running?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    Is it possible that the heat pump is by chance in defrost? Or maybe it has an outdoor thermostat installed? Is the heatpump (outside) still running?
    Not sure what you mean by being "in defrost." but there is no ice anywhere on the unit or in the system- inside or outside. Everything is clean, well clean enough.

    The unit appears to be working outside. The fan out there is on. But if it is doing any other work out there, I am not sure.

    I have one themostat that I am aware of... and that is inside
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:30 PM

    Heatpumps have a defrost mode, most models bring on emergency heat when they go into defrost. What do you have the thermostat set on? What is the indoor tempature?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    Heatpumps have a defrost mode, most models bring on aux. heat when they go into defrost. What do you have the thermostat set on? What is the indoor tempature?

    Aux heat mode NEVER comes on.. . it always say emergency heat...

    Right now the thermostat is on 68F. That is the house temperature.

    It is set to be at 68F for now. I am trying to be conservative with the heat until I solve this problem.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:40 PM

    What brand is the thermostat? If it is older something may be defective with the indicator lights.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    What brand is the thermostat? If it is older something may be defective with the indicator lights.

    Honeywell - digital

    I am trying to determine the model number... it looks similar to, but not exactly like this one, but it is not programmable.

    http://www.gogeisel.com/geiselonline...01F_T8024F.pdf

    Could there be a compressor problem?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by marianne2641 View Post
    honeywell - digital

    I am trying to determine the model number....it looks similar to, but not exactly like this one, but it is not programmable.

    http://www.gogeisel.com/geiselonline...01F_T8024F.pdf

    could there be a compressor problem?
    PS
    More like this one:
    http://www.pexsupply.com/img/product...Thermostat.jpg
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:55 PM

    If the heat pump is running I would say the compressor is fine. Is it a honeywell?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 12:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    If the heat pump is running I would say the compressor is fine. Is it a honeywell?

    That is good to hear.

    Yes it is a digital honeywell... simple style, not programmable... look at previous messages... I give links to try to show what it looks similar to.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    If the heat pump is running I would say the compressor is fine. Is it a honeywell?

    The heat pump is a York...

    The thermostat is a digital honeywell. See previous descriptions

    Someone said it might be a "condensor for the motor" does that make any sense?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:02 PM

    Switch the thermostat to emergency heat,then back to heat. See what happens.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:02 PM
    What is the outside tempature?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    Switch the thermostat to emergency heat,then back to heat. See what happens.
    outside temp = 56F

    switch to EMER heat makes:
    the inside unit blower turns on
    the outside fan does NOT come on
    a black arrow points to EMER setting

    switch back to aux - regular - heat:
    the inside unit blower turns on
    the outside fan comes on
    NO black arrow appears on thermostat under AUX

    in both cases, the "flame" icon appears between and above the 2 numbers... ex, 6^9
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:22 PM

    My guess is that everything is working fine. Emergency icon is not showing up in regular heat mode,correct?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:24 PM

    I'm not sure exactly what is making you think that you are running emergency heat?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hvacservicetech_07 View Post
    My guess is that everything is working fine. Emergency icon is not showing up in regular heat mode,correct?

    There is no emergency icon... there is just one flame that I see... it is situated between the 2 numbers...

    6^8
    7^2

    the flame is closer to the word EMER than to the word AUX... I was told the EMER heat was on, and not the AUX heat...

    I was expecting that the icon location would be

    EMER... AUX

    ^ 68 for EMER

    68 ^ for AUX

    Maybe it is the way we read the thermostat..

    anyhow, since the OUTSIDE fan on the heat pump is coming on, while on the regular heat setting, that means we are using the AUX heat, and not the EMER heat?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 01:36 PM

    I'm guessing you are looking to deep into this, the icons are pretty close together,as long as it is not showing emergency heat on the display screen and the heat pump is coming on outside,you should be fine.

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