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    Sep 27, 2022, 04:05 PM
    From Wikipedia --
    QAnon[a] (/ˈkjuː.əˌnɒn/) is an American political conspiracy theory and political movement. It originated in the American far-right political sphere in 2017. QAnon centers on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals known as "Q". Those claims have been relayed, developed and supplemented by numerous communities and influencers associated with the movement. The core QAnon theory is that a cabal of Satanic,[1][2][3] cannibalistic sexual abusers of children operating a global child sex trafficking ring conspired against former U.S. President Donald Trump during his term in office.[7]

    Trump supporters – many of them QAnon followers – attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. The Capitol attack was a watershed moment for QAnon and led to a further, more sustained social media crackdown on the movement and its claims.[55][56]

    Multiple surveys have found that conspiracy theories such as QAnon are most popular among white Americans, especially evangelicals.
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    Sep 27, 2022, 06:10 PM
    So where in there does it say that QAnon is a white supremacist organization?

    Why did you leave this out? "QAnon is described as antisemitic or rooted in antisemitic tropes, due to its fixation on Jewish financier George Soros and conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family, a frequent target of antisemites."
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    Sep 27, 2022, 07:56 PM
    I view QAnon as being on about the same level as BLM except that BLM has been responsible for a great deal more violence and seems to be far better financed, but we'd be much better off without both of them.
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    #104

    Sep 28, 2022, 04:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    human life is not a clump of cells .
    I agree. A zygote, being a clump of cells, is definitely not human life.


    The science says human life begins at conception.
    Simply not true. SOME scientists say that, which is more a reflection of their religious stance than their science. Equally, SOME scientists say the opposite - also a religious belief stance. The best scientists - middle-ground scientists - say the question is not a scientific one. It is essentially a philosophical question that does not lend itself to the empirical scientific method.

    For all the scientific opinions you listed that are against abortion, I can list an equal number that are pro-choice.
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    Sep 28, 2022, 04:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Multiple surveys have found that conspiracy theories such as QAnon are most popular among white Americans, especially evangelicals.
    True. The white evangelical worldview fits right in to the QAnon conspiratorial worldview. They both rely on Satan as the mastermind at the root of evil and conspiracy theories. Trump supports both camps. Not because he has any religious beliefs - he has none - but because they are the core group of his support.
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    Sep 28, 2022, 04:21 PM
    And now the Oath Keepers are on the march.
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    Sep 28, 2022, 07:33 PM
    As is usually the case, this will not be answered. "So where in there does it say that QAnon is a white supremacist organization?"
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    Sep 28, 2022, 07:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    As is usually the case, this will not be answered. "So where in there does it say that QAnon is a white supremacist organization?"
    Nowhere. But look at them. What do you see? Listen to them. What do you hear?
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    Sep 28, 2022, 07:44 PM
    I don't waste my time with them, so I can't say. They just seem to be a relatively small fringe group to me. It might very well be true, but the article doesn't lead that way. Of course it also seems possible that BLM is a black supremacist group. I'm not a fan of any organization that focuses on a particular race. It just seems terribly divisive to me.

    I do appreciate the forthright answer.
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    Sep 28, 2022, 08:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Nowhere. But look at them. What do you see? Listen to them. What do you hear?
    Excellent point.

    Those who speak and don't know are always a danger and to be guarded against.

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