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Our strict gun laws are not for sale. The two One Nation clowns involved have no idea that Australian law forbids political donations from foreign powers.

Don't be like that Tom. I might be able to help a bit.

It doesn't really matter that a Creator is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, but not in the Constitution. When they give...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by the Creator unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness

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Ok then it is a self-evident truth. Do you know what a self-evident truth is?

Tut

Hi Tom,

They need to be defended because they are self-evident, or they need to be defended because they are a right?

Think it through carefully before you answer.


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I think he is referring to your ethos. Ex's post #122

I think Tal was referring to a scientific link.

The science would tells us that the embryo is a potential human being. Science also tells us that a fetus is not conscious until a certain number of...

Well there you go. I though that your comment was an indication that you believed there is no middle ground in the discussion.

If it were up to you what would put on the table for starters?

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Tom, you say that I am too tough on your comments and I don't pay enough attention to other posts that lack credible evidence.

Could you tell me why I would not see this as fulfilling a...

Hi Tom,

Yes, I think you are right I am not being very fair to you. In the interests of fairness I should go through every other post as well. I am glad you have pointed this out. Yes,I think I...

Tom, still trying to perpetuate the circular argument? At least this time you have cited some evidence to back up your conclusion. The problem is that you only cherry picked the bit that supports...

Suffice for what? I already pointed out that I'm not sure about the empirical evidence. So yes, this was the type of study I was talking about. If you asking me what I think I will read it and get...

That is not a fallacy, you are asking for empirical verification. As far as I know the evidence suggests that the laws are largely ineffectual. That is just what I am thinking, but you would have to...

Hello Tom,

How about we put this ridiculous fallacy to bed right away.

You seems to like the circular reasoning. Spoons don't go around shoving food into people's mouths. Do you know any people...

The problem is that you have left yourself wide upon for criticism by invoking such a statement. There always people who think that free will is bound very much in the idea of God's sovereign plan...

What does this have to do with anything? Even I could have made such a prediction for the time and further into the future Three brances of government each assigned and equal role in governance....

So Clete was right all along? I guessed as much.

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I was thinking exactly the same thing.

I see... and tell me what YOU know Tom. What theory of omnipotence do you subscribe to for explaining evil in the world?

Perhaps,the idea that such things are inevitable because there will always...

Is that a no to my idea that we can't place ourselves in a privileged position when it comes to judging events we are historically connected?

No to the idea that it is bad methodology to judge...

It is very easy to exact hindsight when it comes to historical events. Sounds a lot like you are promoting 'creeping determinism' to me. In other words, we can see past events in a clearer light...

Should we read anything into a famous quote you cite subsequently? "......politics is warfare by other means" . Perhaps you just like it?


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Tom, you always cite SCOTUS as the villain in the play. I am sure there is a good argument for that position. The problem is that I cannot recall any civilization that has had a successful power...

When it comes to a individuals genetic make up there is no half, third, or a quarter of anything. That is not how genetics works. If there is any other misunderstandings it is also the case that a...

I understand that side of the argument. However I am just wondering what Tom's excuse is. But I guess I should ask him.

Tut

Hi tom,

The language of any constitution can be problematic at times, but I think there are different issues when it comes to Marbury V Madison.

Be that as it may the Jefferson quote reminds...

Well I guess there is normal and there is normal. But the thing I want to know is why everything is couched in terms of 'war'. There is a war on this and a war on that. Even Tom's signature quote...

Tom, you keep mentioning the Marbury v Madison decision, but that was over two hundred years ago. Don't you think it is time to move on? Obviously there was an underestimation of the power of the...

I'm glad you said, "socialist or otherwise". It is the otherwise bit that seems to be ignored when looking at the bigger picture.

If you are saying that words mean something in their historical context then I would agree with that. Anything more than that is a different kettle of fish.


Tut

Exactly.

Let's talk about Steve's bigger picture and Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. Smith says, "The authority of riches...is perhaps in the rudest age of society which admits of any...

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I think the reason is that we don't have a Bill of Rights.The American Constitution is a product of the Enlightenment. Basically this means that faith as a basis for understand politics, the physical...

Well, I guess that's the way it goes. The Federalists were never going to be happy with the ratification of the Constitution unless they had some input. They created a niche that was always going to...

Hi Ex,

Someone will challenge the legitimacy of the states to introduce such legislation.If it isn't now it will be down the track at some stage.

Tut

They will probably get you on the Commerce Clause. Or the Necessary and Proper Clause.

Tut

Hi Tom,

The federal government knowing its place comes under Amendment Number..

I hope they hurry and bring out the move otherwise there will be no one to see it.

Tut

"Ray, next time someone asks if you are a God, you tell them yes!"

"How about we split up we can do more damage that way"

"That's ok, the table broke its fall"

"That's not the behaviour one...

Ok, that's well and good, but you told me to read the commons thing and I did. Obviously I could not read everything, but based on what I did read it seemed obvious that one could use the arguments...

I thought that in the end there was too much flack over the science, so the Feds opted for the easy way out by not renewing their lease.

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Wrong choice of words on my part. By 'supermarket I actually meant 'fads'

Tried and true methods based on the best research would be the best approach in the public schools A national curriculum...

In short, people's behaviour does sometimes cause threatening situations, not initiated by malicious outside forces, but rather, resulting from the apparently innocent decisions of individuals and...

Lifting your standards of literacy and numeracy in schools won't work using a 'supermarket' approach to education.

Tut

Yes, but what good is this. It depends on the political makeup of SCOTUS at the time.



Tom this can mean whatever we want it to mean. Based on the total of all arguments presented one could...

I agree with most of that, but do you see the need for some type of overall government management of a wilderness area? It seems to me you were suggesting that overall management is best achieved...

A National curriculum would be one reason. Do all schools over there follow a national curriculum?


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"So what other ways can we not spend money we weren't going to spend anyway to cut spending"

I think this depends as to whether you are talking about 'spending cuts' or 'savings'

Two different...

Yes, I guess you are right. It is obvious that no one is interested in any Aussie ideas.

Tut

I completely agree with your thoughts on the matter, but my response was in relation to the claim that, "The best way to manage and preserve public lands is not government management. The best proven...