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    Again. What do you mean when you say,...

    Again. What do you mean when you say, "evangelize"?

    I don't think you figured out what "truth" is.
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    What do you mean when you say, "evangelize"? ...

    What do you mean when you say, "evangelize"?

    So you start off with a lie? Well...that's unique.
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    I never said that. You did. Are you OK?

    I never said that. You did. Are you OK?
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    Why would you clobber them?

    Why would you clobber them?
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    You would? I wouldn’t.

    You would? I wouldn’t.
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    I wouldn’t start out with the truth? What??

    I wouldn’t start out with the truth? What??
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    Read the text to find out.

    Read the text to find out.
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    Tell them the truth.

    Tell them the truth.
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    We don't.

    We don't.
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    "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in...

    "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

    They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth [set them apart for Your purposes, make them...
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    41 “Then he will say to those on his left,...

    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was...
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    The idea is not mine. Yes, we will wait to see...

    The idea is not mine. Yes, we will wait to see how it works out.
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    Right. Yep. We've been round this maypole...

    Right.

    Yep. We've been round this maypole enough. People can read your effort and decide for themselves. We'll just wait for your Navy fantasy to work itself out.
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    That's exactly what's going on. Besides, you...

    That's exactly what's going on. Besides, you asked me a question at 4:55.

    Are you mad because I told you the truth? Why don't you believe what Jesus said?
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    You keep asking me because you already know what...

    You keep asking me because you already know what Jesus said about this. You don't like His answer, so you want to ask someone else. I would suggest you lay your preconceived ideas aside and believe...
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    In other words, you don't have a clue about the...

    In other words, you don't have a clue about the supposed Navy story.

    I believe that what Jesus said is true. I would encourage you to do the same.

    Oh stop lying for goodness sake. It's...
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    Except, of course, that I have posted your...

    Except, of course, that I have posted your deceitful effort. You have nothing of mine to post, so your statement is just whining.

    There is nothing "according to me". I've simply posted the words...
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    Here is the disgraceful effort of yours. Your...

    Here is the disgraceful effort of yours. Your partial quote of the first passage was intentionally deceitful. At least it's out there for everyone to see now. Better to be "Holy Joe" than Deceitful...
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    Belief in Christ, yes, but not in hell. And as...

    Belief in Christ, yes, but not in hell. And as I've said before, I simply posted what Jesus said. Your problem is with Him, and that's a bad situation to be in. "Unless you believe that I (Jesus) am...
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    I don't do much teaching of children in a...

    I don't do much teaching of children in a Christian setting. If I did, I would feel a responsibility to teach them what Jesus said about hell.

    Would you?
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    I still don't understand why you get so upset...

    I still don't understand why you get so upset about what I believe. Earlier I asked, "Why is it you care about what I believe?" You replied, "Because your belief re hell is horrible and should never...
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    Funny how you obviously have NO memory of it....

    Funny how you obviously have NO memory of it. Otherwise you would be specific.

    Yeah, but the evidence to show your plain deceit about the Aquinas quote was there.

    I haven't interpreted the...
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    Do I trust you? No. Your latest effort at...

    Do I trust you? No. Your latest effort at partially presenting a quote, still unaddressed by you, helps to explain why. Asking me to just take your word for it as regards Aquinas won’t work.

    What...
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    I looked. This was not explained. Bear in...

    I looked. This was not explained.

    Bear in mind that I am referring there to the quote by Jesus you referred to concerning judgment and not to the Aquinas quote.

    I've heard your Aquinas...
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    You have a partial point. I did not connect a...

    You have a partial point. I did not connect a name with "complete loon", so that's pretty iffy. As to the others, they refer to someone's actions rather than calling names.

    Please do. You were,...
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    Oh good grief. I just saw your "substance". ...

    Oh good grief. I just saw your "substance".

    It's very simple. In the first quote, Jesus is speaking in the present tense of his time on earth. He did not come then for judgement but rather for...
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    And here we have the guy who accuses others of...

    And here we have the guy who accuses others of calling names. Why don't you post something of substance? Do you have anything?
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    No. Yes.

    No.

    Yes.
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    Anyone who thinks Jesus was referring to the...

    Anyone who thinks Jesus was referring to the garbage dump as being eternal is a complete loon. Your remaining comments are sixth grade level drivel from someone who cannot defend her position or even...
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    Well, Jesus mentioned hell many, many times, most...

    Well, Jesus mentioned hell many, many times, most notably in Matthew 25, and you have chosen to ignore His views since they don't agree with yours, so I don't really know what it would take to...
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    More scripture to ponder. 47 “If anyone hears...

    More scripture to ponder.

    47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for...
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    Sad but true.

    Sad but true.
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    Well shucks. It's a less entertaining site when...

    Well shucks. It's a less entertaining site when you lose your DV persona.
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    Oh calm down. The world has not come to an end,...

    Oh calm down. The world has not come to an end, not even for Darth Vader. "Luke! You are on permanent record here, Luke. Permanent as in forever and ever and ever, and then even longer than that....
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    Tell you what. I'll point out the next time you...

    Tell you what. I'll point out the next time you disappear so we can all note it. It won't be long. And if you are going to call Walter "Waldo", then please don't whine anymore about some imaginary...
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    Of course there have been, but it is just silly...

    Of course there have been, but it is just silly to speaking of "twisted and mangled". The two are worlds apart.
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    That's so funny. Athos is the one who disappears...

    That's so funny. Athos is the one who disappears for days at a time. Strange, indeed.
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    Now THAT is a great, great question. It is most...

    Now THAT is a great, great question. It is most almost certainly not EXACTLY as it was when written. Has it been twisted and mangled? There is no evidence of that. The evidence shows that the Bible...
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    Earth to Athos. They were not my words. But even...

    Earth to Athos. They were not my words. But even at that, why would you want my words when you have the words of Jesus? If you don't accept what Jesus said, why would you want to know my views?
    ...
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    Yes. The words of the Bible have been, in your...

    Yes. The words of the Bible have been, in your view, twisted and mangled, and are thus unreliable. What other meaning can come from such a statement?

    What happens to those who reject the Gospel?
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    That is precisely what she is saying. "twisted...

    That is precisely what she is saying. "twisted and mangled"

    I still wonder what you believe happens to those who reject the Gospel message.
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    What happens to those who reject it?

    What happens to those who reject it?
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    Besides, there is absolutely no reason to believe...

    Besides, there is absolutely no reason to believe the words of the Bible have been "mangled". The evidence points very strongly in the other direction.
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    So you do agree that the message of the Gospel...

    So you do agree that the message of the Gospel has to be accepted, and that some people reject it?
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    Wow! That was really impressive. It has to be one...

    Wow! That was really impressive. It has to be one of the best Darth Vader impressions I've ever seen. "Luke! Your post has disgraced you. It has become your death knell. Luke! Bewaarreee of the DEATH...
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    Athos basically wrote, "Dear Jesus, Ah, took you...

    Athos basically wrote, "Dear Jesus, Ah, took you long enough to do the threats. That is what your type of religion loves. Condemning others to an eternity of torture. That is your revenge for your...
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    Nah. It’s with Jesus. You don’t believe His words...

    Nah. It’s with Jesus. You don’t believe His words and I'm just quoting Him. For instance, "I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”...
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    You continue to rant and rave, but you don't...

    You continue to rant and rave, but you don't disagree with me; you disagree with Jesus. You're not mad at me; you're mad at Jesus. I didn't give you my view, but His very clear statement.

    It's not...
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    What a silly response. It has nothing to do with...

    What a silly response. It has nothing to do with what I want. I'm telling you the words of Jesus. First you believe them, but now you don't. It's a very clear passage that you simply have chosen not...
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    An educator knows where the problem really lies....

    An educator knows where the problem really lies.

    So Jesus changed everything regarding the wrath that same Jesus spoke of in John 3. Got it! In your view, He was lying.

    In my view, He perfectly...
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