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  1. It's not just a monetary value one seeks through...

    It's not just a monetary value one seeks through the struggle for a modicum of dignity and self respect and if that struggle takes years to bear fruit the is that not a compromise in of itself?...
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    Well, the boys ain't coming home, they will be...

    Well, the boys ain't coming home, they will be redeployed to guard the oil in Iraq? What kind of leader runs policy by phone before he has given his troops time to prepare for such actions he wants...
  3. Antifa was who I had in mind as a loony fringe...

    Antifa was who I had in mind as a loony fringe group who uses violence to further and agenda, as well as the KKK, with or without the hood and robes, and white supremist. I think both sides throw...
  4. You should be used to fringe groups with agendas...

    You should be used to fringe groups with agendas resorting to violence to bring about the change they desire.
  5. Maybe in the civilized world the due process of...

    Maybe in the civilized world the due process of law has been followed and a lot of the oppositions to such monuments to dictators, and instigators of a lot of bloodshed have won and want the record...
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    Yeah there may be a difference between a dumb...

    Yeah there may be a difference between a dumb crook and a smart one, but geez ain't they both crooks?
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    I did as you suggested and only find right wing...

    I did as you suggested and only find right wing loony sights carrying that story line. Started by this guy.
  8. Don't go there. It's impossible to tax a rich guy...

    Don't go there. It's impossible to tax a rich guy to death with the breaks and loopholes and havens they enjoy, and a well know fact is the dependence of the people elected officials on the favors of...
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    I am afraid I must disagree. If Nixon thought his...

    I am afraid I must disagree. If Nixon thought his landslide victory and popularity with the people and his party would get him through he may have stayed, but many repubs told him he would be...
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    Thanks Athos, and I'm not sure where Vac got THAT...

    Thanks Athos, and I'm not sure where Vac got THAT wild conspiracy scheme from.
  11. 1. He also inherited not just a offf the books...

    1. He also inherited not just a offf the books war funding, but a recession too boot. He started in a job killing hole. Though even the bail out included a modest building fund and tax cuts for...
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    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/ent...

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAIZbmk.img?h=416&w=624&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f&x=2860&y=1166
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  13. I will consider when you wake up and stop whining...

    I will consider when you wake up and stop whining about the debt while those rich guys get their tax cuts.
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    Neither do I and I know what to do with bullies.

    Neither do I and I know what to do with bullies.
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    Why should they? Obamas' behavior and words were...

    Why should they? Obamas' behavior and words were nothing compared to what the dufus has done in his first 3 years and no amount of dufus pandering will get any dem to say otherwise. He has enough...
  16. DUDE, the latest smears were not a part of the...

    DUDE, the latest smears were not a part of the converstion in 2016. Fact is you voted for a guy who started his campaign with trash talk and mud slinging and now you dare tell me to stop? If that's...
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    All the embassies around the world had beefed up...

    All the embassies around the world had beefed up security even Bengahzi. Congress denied extra funding for Bengahzi, as it was asked for. We argued on those very issues on THIS forum after it...
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    Preliminary report are often updated, and it's no...

    Preliminary report are often updated, and it's no secret that we were on high alert at ALL the embassies around the world. We were all horrified, but what good does it do to shoot the messenger? You...
  19. You hate it when it's done against yo' boy, but...

    You hate it when it's done against yo' boy, but when he does it all the time you vote for him. Tell him to stop, and when he does, I might. Until then get over it!

    That should be easy enough for...
  20. Vlad should have thought of that before he used...

    Vlad should have thought of that before he used his military to annex Crimea, or invade the Ukraine. The sanction only limit his ability to skim noney from the coffers of his country, but he hasn't...
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    4 killed in Bengahzi 30 rescued. They fought off...

    4 killed in Bengahzi 30 rescued. They fought off the attack by terrorists.
  22. One thing I've always hated about silly season is...

    One thing I've always hated about silly season is the constant mudslinging and smearing aimed at opponents. Everybody is trying to get elected and everybody tries to play the game. That's what...
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    Sure there is a great dissapointment that HC...

    Sure there is a great dissapointment that HC lost, Vac, but for sure their was also a GREATER dissappointment that the dufus won. I mean he was a liar and cheater before the election, and the power...
  24. I wonder why none of the dufus sycophants has...

    I wonder why none of the dufus sycophants has produced any other charges of corruption to justify holding up the military aid to the Ukraine other than a bogus server from the DNC or his political...
  25. Anybody care to comment on Mulvaney admitting the...

    Anybody care to comment on Mulvaney admitting the dufus held up military money for Ukraine yesterday because he wanted them to turn over the server the DNC used in 2016?

    Or maybe the announcement...
  26. That's too bad you mistake my humor for name...

    That's too bad you mistake my humor for name calling even if there is enough evidence to assign you the label. Same for the dufus and you don't have to be a humorless sourpus about it.


    It's not...
  27. Is that what you call your responses? Naw, I...

    Is that what you call your responses? Naw, I never take those ranting personally, that's just the way lunatics express themselves. You really think your responses upset me?


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    It's not name...
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    Yes Elijah Cummins was a true hero and...

    Yes Elijah Cummins was a true hero and inspiration. JL I am guilty of bashing and criticizing the dufus because he does so much to bash and be criticized for, and I do love it. I really don't know...
  29. I'll stick with what I beleive in thank you. That...

    I'll stick with what I beleive in thank you. That I can handle, whatever you rave about, I can handle that too. Some full moon we had, wasn't it, you lunatic. See I do understand you better than you...
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    GEEZ JL, you've ranted and raved but have won no...

    GEEZ JL, you've ranted and raved but have won no arguments either. Should we take a vote on that?
  31. Speculation? Or is this lying? Actually...

    Speculation? Or is this lying?



    Actually this is what I wrote about my position.


    'Maybe that's the difference in us, as some see in absolutes, and some see in the full range where there is...
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    Oh come on you aren't concerned with the truth,...

    Oh come on you aren't concerned with the truth, just covering up the shame of giving us the lying cheating dufus who is also an incompetent criminal. I certainly can understand under those...
  33. It's NOT your human and since you had nothing to...

    It's NOT your human and since you had nothing to do with the creation, you have nothing to do with the outcome./T




    I may not have anything to do with the outcome of...
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    Can't argue with that logic Clete, but if you...

    Can't argue with that logic Clete, but if you read it you may find it aspires to more than the men that wrote it, and gives a young nation something to grow into. Admittedly we are slow on that path...
  35. All heath care facilities and doctors offices...

    All heath care facilities and doctors offices bill the same way, but why argue with you. The numbers are the numbers. 1/3 of abortions nationwide okay. Who does the rest?

    As we see 2/3 of...
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    Turnout 55.7%[1]...

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  37. Unfortunately yes, that is the way it is and if...

    Unfortunately yes, that is the way it is and if you have a better idea than just talking then express yourself.



    I'll go with that rather than argue the point, but when I quote someone or copy...
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    Polls have varying degrees of margin for error....

    Polls have varying degrees of margin for error. Not focusing on some midwestern states as the dufus did hurt too I think. We get another chance at this soon if they don't dump the dufus before...
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    Prohibition as an example, the mob made money off...

    Prohibition as an example, the mob made money off it, until they repealed and taxed it now anybody can make a buck. Like all those sins as you say. For sure we don't need criminals making profits on...
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    That is absolutely true, but not an excuse for...

    That is absolutely true, but not an excuse for the dufus to lie and deceive by saying he did it all by himself. That's disgusting.
  41. Not an entirely accurate post Vac, since the law...

    Not an entirely accurate post Vac, since the law prohits using any federal money for abortions and PP must use private donations for such activity, producing documents to that effect to get that...
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    I honestly could agree if the dufus was a lot...

    I honestly could agree if the dufus was a lot more humble, and didn't try to hog ALL the credit while berating his predessesor.s He's NOT so he lies! I have been quite lavish in giving him credit for...
  43. It is what it is, and despite all our combined...

    It is what it is, and despite all our combined caring on various levels neither of us has moved the needle very much, have we?
    Instead of perfect behavior, I can take just moving in a good...
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    https://unemploymentdata.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

    https://unemploymentdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/LFPR-11-3-2017.png
    I bet it has more to do with an aging population, retirements, or people staying home to care for kids, or family, and...
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    That's a horrible thing for an innocent child to...

    That's a horrible thing for an innocent child to go through, and I would hope child and mother get the help they need and addicts need help for sure to kick that addiction which could take years, but...
  46. Maybe that's the difference in us, as some see in...

    Maybe that's the difference in us, as some see in absolutes, and some see in the full range where there is a middle ground. We have debated when life begins, and some say when the egg is fertilized,...
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    FACTOIDS Obama left the country with a 4.7...

    FACTOIDS

    Obama left the country with a 4.7 unemployment number and in 3 years the dufus has dropped it a point!

    Obama still created more jobs than the dufus despite the recession.

    I don't...
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    In addition to the Mueller Report,...

    In addition to the Mueller Report, which lays out very explicitly the scope and extent of Russian interference, names and indicts specific Russian military and intelligence officers, there is also...
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    Yes, I think your doctor should be kept abreast...

    Yes, I think your doctor should be kept abreast of this situation and debelopments. I'm sure they made that plain when he was released, and you were probably given a followup appointment. Am I...
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    So the dufus is invincible and we are wasting our...

    So the dufus is invincible and we are wasting our time and should just bend the knee, kiss his ring and let him run roughshod over our democracy. Naw, I would rather go down swinging if you don't...
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