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If Obama gets the nomination you will see the RNC attack in a way that makes Clinton's look like Child's play…and rightfully so.

Excon

Why am I not surprised you believe it is another white mans conspiracy to eliminate the Black race in America.

That's as far out as another conspiracy theory I heard… Black activists...

Thanks for the link, SkyGem, it was news to me.


Yeah, neither Obama or Wright are a Booker T. Washington, nor do their beliefs compare with the Hampton Institute.

Nor do either make as...

Excon
Wright can and has spoken…at the same time, I can and have, and you can and have. And with this post [post #68 you reach a couple thousand years in the past.

Excon

So, there are some laws that discriminate against blacks…show me, I’ll lead the way on having them repealed.

Oy vey! The finagle chutzpah of your shpiel, thanks for the schmooze.

Bobby

The girl who can't dance says the band can't play, and what you don't see with your eyes, don't invent with your mouth.:)

Clearly, the Bible does not condone the ill-treatment of others in any form. On the contrary, it encourages respect and equality among men. (Acts 10:34, 35) It exhorts humans to treat others the way...

Obama blamed the Iraq war for higher oil prices and skyrocketing debt, which shows his ignorance of economics or contempt of the average American.

For one thing higher oil prices are because the...

To the contrary, your argument is that God allowed slavery therefore he approved…that is not different than the argument that God allows sin therefore he must approve.

Sounds like racial-identity politics to me. Strange coming from a person who claims to have transcended that sort of thing.

“You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men.”—1 Cor. 7:23.

In a speech to the General Conference of the Methodist Protestant Church in 1842, Alexander McCaine stated that the...

excon
I don't think expressing “victimology” and anti-white rants is going to help much, although I can see where getting “Something for nothing” is tempting. The thing Marxist Socialist fail to...

Actually we are not inclined to trust people in general. The fossil record of crows is rather dense in Europe, but the relationships among most prehistoric species is not clear. Jackdaw-, crow- and...

And you like Bobby have resorted to insults while distracting from the topic.
There is no genetic code that makes a distinction between Jew and Christian, so how could I be denying them their code....

Right, being Jewish is genetic…perhaps you can give us the code because science cannot.

More distractions and insults.

excon
IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- The Roots Of Black Anger
Do you want to see some real “anger?” “In his speech, Obama...

excon

Yeah, the losers in a debate always what to get off topic and stay off. Somehow they count that as a win…But then I never understood socialist, except their pursuit of something for nothing.

What I got from Obama was his defense by making excuses for “Black Liberation Theology;” that there is a conspiracy of racism in America today and that legalized discrimination still exists today.

WASP, ever heard the term? White Anglo-Saxon Protestant’s founded this country and were the Power behind the government until beginning of the 20th centaury.

I have frequently observed Jewish socialist agitation from hotheaded romantics resort to the ultimate insult, nothing new there.

But to get back more on track Bobby, your spin reminds me of...

In your opinion; my opinion is much different:

Racism is itself a central doctrine in traditional Judaism and Black Liberation Theology…the breathtaking arrogance of both.

EDIT: I will add...

I can’t run talaniman, do you realize how terrific and remarkable his insights and sensitivities are! How could any one person be so brilliant, so on-target, so profound?. he must be Jewish!:p

Well yes Bobby, as an atheist I can hardly claim God's unabashed favoritism.:p

Is that Jewish superiority I hear? I suppose the Old Yiddish folk saying is true… "Villains fare well in this world, saints in the next world.":rolleyes:

More insults, is there anyone you have not insulted? :rolleyes:

More insults, is that genetic with you or a learned habit? :rolleyes:

Bobby

More insults, is that genetic with you or a learned habit?

excon

You're simply mixing categories, a nation cannot be baptized; therefore it cannot be Christian nor can it have any other human qualities.

excon

I just love your bait-and-switch tactics. :rolleyes:

Have you considered a new name for yourself... Humpty Dumpty
Has it ever occurred to you that words have meaning aside from what you want them to have? Reminds me …... `When I use a word,' Humpty...

Wright obviously became a student of Carmichael; black power ideology and philosophy. Was he wrong?

Were Huey P. Newton, Bobby Seale, Eldridge Cleaver, Malcolm X, and the Mass protests of the 60's...

excon

The term liberalism or liberal can have many meanings and as I'm sure you know has even changed over the course of time…that is one reason I said look to philosophy in forming opinions.
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More of the same Bobby…It makes me wonder about the Obama supporters who has spoken in this forum who can't put together an argument supporting Wright and his church when others have, including Obama.

excon

You have made it clear in the past you have no use for a subject you know nothing about…Philosophy, which has shaped the thoughts of man since he crawled out of the silt in East Africa and...

excon

It would be foolish to believe that all Democrats are liberal and all Republicans conservative; it is not to individual events, or persons that we need to look in forming an opinion, but to...

Me too Tom…I thought I might get some sort of argument in Wrights defense but all I see is an attack on his critics with a little Jewish victimhood thrown in.

NK

Don't tell me I'm wrong, show me where I'm wrong.

Yeah, but what is that future he so strongly wants to lead us to? Do you know in any terms rather than wild abstractions…give me something concrete about this new path to walk on into a new future?

NK

I haven't lacked when it comes to opportunity and choice, what more can I ask in life? Should I ask my neighbors to pay for my bad choices through government intervention? I now live in a third...

NK

To the contrary, conservatives, for the most part, believe in extending equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome, and that government has no place in most issues having to do with...

Today in America Liberalism (Which dominates the Democratic Party) is a belief that the purpose of government is to fix the wrongs of society. Liberals tend to believe that it is the job of...

Yes Tom, even the Catholic Church appeared to buy into it in South America for a short time, and then renounced it.

An important point is what we mean when we use the term “Separatism.”

There...

Hyperbole I will admit to, and that someone will subjectively be offended I don't deny, Steve.

However, for instance- in Wrights mind and the mind of his Church members who he is speaking to when...

Bobby

Are you suggesting that we just take his word for it and let it go at that? Criticism of the powerful is not immoral. It is a necessary part of any truly open society, and if you want give...

Tom

Which raises the question, “Is Wright teaching victim-hood?” Is he teaching youth that they are victims of the white power structure, or is he teaching something more along the lines of the...

I don't know that that is an accurate test, Tom, because the black experience in America is unique—it has no real parallel. And black Americans are unique. Just as the Jew wants the world to never...

I believe an argument could be made in defense of Wright, his Church and its philosophy. I just wanted to provide an opportunity for a logical argument in favor of that premise.


Or do you...

NK

Don't shoot the messenger…the words are true or false no matter whom the messenger is. Would you have us base the truth on whom the messenger is…it appears that that is your litmus test.

Are Wright’s comments really inflammatory, or are they being used out of context, as Obama's Church has claimed?