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  1. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    You have told me what an unknown author wrote...

    You have told me what an unknown author wrote what Jesus is supposed to have said. You also told me what talking snakes have said.



    No, you tried to continue a meaningless dialogue marked by...
  2. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    Give it up, pal. You're not as clever as you...

    Give it up, pal. You're not as clever as you think.



    You have supported it since the day you arrived at this website. You do this by citing every passage you can think of whether or not it is...
  3. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    That was TOTALLY predictable. I even considered...

    That was TOTALLY predictable. I even considered posting it for you - save you time. I don't believe for one second you wish anybody "the best". That's completely out of character for you, someone who...
  4. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    No perhaps about it. You do not understand what...

    No perhaps about it. You do not understand what is meant. This is a stumbling block for you, although this is not the first time it has been explained to you. Get off that literal horse, and try...
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    Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

    Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Tomder, get back to the here and now. Stop...

    Tomder, get back to the here and now. Stop avoiding.

    On January 6, a mob of over one thousand people attacked the Capitol building of the US in order to overthrow the president of the US. The...
  7. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    Using the same principle for you, your system of...

    Using the same principle for you, your system of reading the Bible is entirely subjective and therefore of no practical use. What you have consistently failed to grasp is that ALL mental processes...
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    Then please go to post # 25 and answer the...

    Then please go to post # 25 and answer the questions in the first two paragraphs.
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    You made extensive specific comments about the...

    You made extensive specific comments about the insurrection including it wasn't really an insurrection, other riots have been worse in bloodshed and property damage, the beliefs of the...
  10. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    I will answer your reply point by point. I expect...

    I will answer your reply point by point. I expect a point by point reply from you except where noted.



    The question is not whether Jesus is both Judge and Savior The question is whether Jesus...
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    This is all very interesting, but what does it...

    This is all very interesting, but what does it have to do with the topic which is the Jan6 insurrection? Nothing!

    You used a lot of space to show that you didn't have an answer for the stated...
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    Nice to see the great Billy Graham had a sense of...

    Nice to see the great Billy Graham had a sense of humor about the afterlife. As he aged, he morphed from strict fundamentalism to being more and more open ecumenically.
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    What do you call an attempt to overthrow the...

    What do you call an attempt to overthrow the duly-elected president of the US and replace him with a non-elected tyrant? What do you call an attempt to assassinate the VP of the United States because...
  14. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    You're deflecting again, Jl. That's YOUR...

    You're deflecting again, Jl. That's YOUR "strategy"! Avoid answering by going off on a tangent. Here's the question for you once more:

    Could this be the same Jesus asking his father to forgive...
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    Geez, tom, you'll reach for anything, say...

    Geez, tom, you'll reach for anything, say anything. The whole world is corrupt when things don't go the way you want them to go.

    Go back to bed. You lost.
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    Tell that to the jury who convicted the...

    Tell that to the jury who convicted the insurrectionists of seditious conspiracy and other charges. Max 40 years in jail. Pretty stiff penalty for trespassing.
  17. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    Strange answer with a strange conclusion. "All...

    Strange answer with a strange conclusion. "All parts" of the Gospels are hardly cast in doubt. The fact of the Gospel being edited over centuries is certainly indicated.



    Another strange...
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    Guilty Verdict for Five Oathkeepers

    Jury convicted all five Oathkeepers of obstruction, and aiding and abetting for Jan 6 insurrection. Max penalty 20 years.

    Two were also convicted of seditious conspiracy. Maximum penalty 20 more...
  19. Question: Hardcore

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    So bribery, wire fraud, extortion and conspiracy...

    So bribery, wire fraud, extortion and conspiracy are crimes only when committed by Republicans - all others go free.

    You certainly ARE burdened by history - among other things.
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    Read it again.

    Read it again.
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    Read the link you posted. It was for humanitarian...

    Read the link you posted. It was for humanitarian reasons. Good move, Joe.
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    Thanks be to god!!

    Thanks be to god!!
  23. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    Could this be the same Jesus asking his father to...

    Could this be the same Jesus asking his father to forgive them as the Jesus that the Gospel writers had condemning people to spend eternity in a fiery torture chamber??
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    Then what is your proof that God instituted...

    Then what is your proof that God instituted rights, if that is your contention.



    Straw man. Nobody said religion did NOT have a place in the formulation of law.



    Here's what I wrote:...
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    You made two of the same points I made, only your...

    You made two of the same points I made, only your "Creator" lines were far better than mine. Thank you.

    Your second thought about his "simplistic approach" has been a problem for a very long time...
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    You cited him as proof of God instituting rights....

    You cited him as proof of God instituting rights. I cited him as proof of rights being derived from the consent of the governed. HUGE difference.



    Congress and the states are made up from the...
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    You cite Jefferson, yet you cannot reconcile his...

    You cite Jefferson, yet you cannot reconcile his words about rights with the FACT that he was a slaveholder denying rights to millions. Can you explain that?



    Do you see the contradiction in...
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    I will reply to your posts as noted by post...

    I will reply to your posts as noted by post number. I have read yours carefully. I trust you will do the same for mine.

    Post # 38 (quoted immediately above).

    Your conclusion is wrong. I.e.,...
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    If this is a reference to me, this cheerleader...

    If this is a reference to me, this cheerleader has just demolished your argument referenced by WG. As usual, your comment has nothing to do with supporting your position. You're a one-note Charlie.
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    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that...

    Thanks for posting this. It made me read a bit further into the exchange to see where it occurred.

    The source of rights in US law is the consent of the governed, not the God of the Bible. This is...
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    I see that you're engaged in a discussion/debate...

    I see that you're engaged in a discussion/debate with another AMHD member who shall be nameless here. Been there, done that. Now I generally have him blocked/ignored with the occasional exception...
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    You never replied to my comment: To...

    You never replied to my comment:



    To repeat: You can run, but you can't hide. Proof positive that the truth means nothing to you when it conflicts with your far right lies. Shame.
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    Noted: Lacking any coherent reply, you resort to...

    Noted: Lacking any coherent reply, you resort to name-calling and run away like a mutt with your tail between your legs. Your reaction is fairly typical, and occurs when you can't defend your...
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    Recessions and Political Parties

    Ten of the last 11 recessions started during Republican presidential administrations. Six of the seven administrations with the highest job creation rates since WW2 were Democratic, and six with the...
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    They are being investigated in the NY ongoing...

    They are being investigated in the NY ongoing investigation for fraud. If convicted, all three face jail along with their criminal father. The acorn doesn't fall from the tree.



    That's simply...
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    If it's public, post it. Put up or shut up,...

    If it's public, post it. Put up or shut up, bigmouth.
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    You need to provide some proof for your...

    You need to provide some proof for your accusation.

    Are you the same guy who posted this youtube link?

    Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization”...
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    This is he essential point that Christian...

    This is he essential point that Christian Nationalists fail to understand. They have a strong tendency to discard anything that does not support their beliefs. Science and/or rationality is often...
  39. Question: Father Forgive Them

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    This part seems a little excessive. From "all...

    This part seems a little excessive. From "all over the world"?

    Anyway, I always took it as a general admonition re forgiveness. Forced to think about it, I would probably come up with the same...
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    The only doubt is in your mind desperately trying...

    The only doubt is in your mind desperately trying to find something that your right-wing mentality can construe into another conspiracy theory. It's very transparent.
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    Your ancestor's first act doing something was NOT...

    Your ancestor's first act doing something was NOT doing something? Hmmm...
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    Are you suggesting the Republican Party, and the...

    Are you suggesting the Republican Party, and the MAGA crowd, and Trump should all be prevented from participating in government? That sure sounds like what you're saying.

    I agree except for the...
  43. Question: Retail theft

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    The recent devastating hurricanes and floods were...

    The recent devastating hurricanes and floods were clearly without a doubt the work of the Democratic Party - right, Tomder?
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    There never was any doubt in your mind that a Dem...

    There never was any doubt in your mind that a Dem election win was, per se, a fraud. Nothing new there.

    It's long past time for you to use your mind to examine the FACTS about elections and how...
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    Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are...

    Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are against immigration? Where did your forefathers emigrate from, Tomder?
  46. Question: SBF

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    Something you dearly hope for, I presume.

    Something you dearly hope for, I presume.
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    You're sinking pretty low, Tomder.

    You're sinking pretty low, Tomder.
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    Give it up, tomder, you're looking ridiculous....

    Give it up, tomder, you're looking ridiculous. The right is feasting on the conspiracy theories they love so well to detract from the facts re the attack on Paul Pelosi.

    Was the surgery on Mr....
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    Deo gratias.

    Deo gratias.
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    You got that right. At least one Repub guaranteed...

    You got that right. At least one Repub guaranteed that if elected they would never lose an election again. The election deniers ran on platforms saying they would control the elections as secretaries...
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