You are concerned because she hasn't "officially" broken up with you yet?

Boy when you get back on your feet and stop this pity parady you have for yourself everyday you are going to be in for quite the treat just listening to the things you say.

Just because you are with someone for a long time doesn't make it a healthy blossoming relationship. It just means you were together. Fact is: NOW YOU ARE NOT TOGETHER... so the five years doesn't add up to anything other than five years gone.

Stop looking for the excuse to find a life with her. You have a life of your own, you don't need someone else in it to make it a great life. Partners don't make us who we are, they compliment the person that is already there.

She didn't make you a person, but you need to refind out what makes you a person now because it is not her.

These are some quotes I want for you to hang around your room for inspiration.

"Relationships are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt myself putting it back together"

"Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional."

"I don't miss her. I miss who I thought she was."

Justwantfair...

I love your quotes! This one is my favorite: "I don't miss her. I miss who I thought she was."

... hey everybody... im on my way to give our mutual friend the pawn ticket! That way I don't have to see her on wed! Thanks for all your help and advice...

I bet shell be pi$t that she has to go over to our friends house instead of me making it easy for her!

Ill keep you posted!!

Aghhh...

Why do I have such false hope?

I gave the ticket to our mutual friend but didn't give the key back to her. I want HER to tell me... that way I have a clean conscious that it wasn't me who broke it off... that so messed up but I couldn't help myself... I just couldn't do it. Damn.

I'm moving into another apartment and I texted her about the ticket and all and she texts me back: "good luck with the move"... what the hell? She couldve just said thanks.

Help me not have this false hope people... I know I can go on with my life and be a better person once she is gone... but I can't free myself of her until SHE says goodbye. Then, I can be totally free.

Anyone know felt what I feel? Advice? Comments... thnx... ps... dont be too harsh!! ;)

::in my not harsh voice::

Actions speak louder than words and she has already said all the good-bye that you are probably going to get.

Justwantfair... its midnight and I can't sleep...

I just can't understand it as much as I try. Why would she not say goodbye? What's the big deal... just let me know... not in actions but in words. You know? She could even text me if she's that much of a coward.

I need the closure.

And another thing... how can someone stop "loving" just like that? I don't get it.

She has the support of her loser friends I'm sure who are influencing her and if she can't think for herself.. then I'm better off before we would have gotten married.. etc... that wouldve been even harder!

Anyway, as harsh as everyone here is on me... you guys are the only support I really have... my friends are "dogs" and they just tell me to go get laid and all will be fine.

So keep up the comments, I sure do need it now more than ever... :(

Everybody... we had PLANS on getting MARRIED in 1 1/2 years!!

And then this SH%t happens. Tell me that there are others out there that feel my pain, because I feel like the only one and like a fool. I just am trying not to be bitter and angry but its hard guys... this woman was everything that I wanted in a woman... pretty, cook, has a job, independent, professional, humor, fun to hang out with, great sex, and she made me feel like I was the ONLY man in the world.

You guys KNOW what I mean!!

And then... NADA. I truly am going crazy with this BS. Not to get too out of bounds but I say prayers at night asking god to just help her END it or not... but for something to happen and happen quickly.

Once it goes down... then watch out world. You know our mutual friend even tells her to "let me know" don't string him along... etc.

Like I said earlier posts... she is a borderline alkie and is bi polar. Maybe this is the problem... but damn, when she is normal... life is wonderful...

Its almost like I want to be with her because I could turn her around... I could get her to stop drinking so much and to go to the doctor for her meds... and then if she did that... she would be the girl I knew 5 years ago when we first met...

Another thing...

Ranting now... but for us, our relationship was either GREAT or FUXX up! There were no in betweens.

I've been in other realtionships before and all of those things were steady... we got angry and then got over it. Not much drama unless it really warranted it. But this woman... seems as if she's not happy unless there is drama in her life , u know?

But when there is no drama... man it is like we are on the mooon... never felt like that with any other woman in my life... thats why I guess that I tolerated the messed up part for so long... the high was so great!

I don't know guys... as you can see by my posts I'm going through a huge crisis that I've never had before. I'm not going to do anything stupid but its just makes me want to think that I should just be like my friends and just get laid... and rack up the notches in my belt to avoid what I am going thourh ever again... >:

I think right now you should try to get yourself sleeping. And you seriously need to stop thinking about her. I don't care how hard you think it is and how impossible it will seem to you. But you are a tough guy and you'll handle this.

The first thing is to calm down. Get out of the computer. Turn off the TV, or turn it to a boring channel (like CNN or weather) or put some soothing music on. Get a glass of water or a cup of milk or ice-cream or chocolate or some other quick comfort snack. If you have some book around, it's the perfect moment to start reading it.

If that doesn't work, than lie in bed and think about your life. But only about things that do not include her. You might think there aren't that many, but you're in for a surprise. Think about your family. Your childhood. Your career. Your job. For me childhood is the best thing, because it reminds me of how simple life really is. As adults we make it much more complex than what it needs to be.

If you know how to meditate, or if you are religious and know some prayers, they also tend to be helpful because they make you focus on something else.

And, for your own sake, stop trying to understand why. It's just pointless and will just make the whole process take much longer.

All right... im going to bed.

Thanks

Also, about the "get laid and you'll be over it", that is sort of true. I know it's not the consensus here in the board, mostly because it potentially can put you in a deeper mess, but on the other hand, it's the quick and dirty way of remembering that your ex is not the last cookie in the jar.

You don't have to get "laid" to realize this... personally I found that just going out and talking to other girls, and having them show an interest in me did as much good as getting "laid" did... at this point I don't feel Crazy is in the emotional state to go out and get laid and the reap the benefits of that. Attention from girls is sometimes all it takes to realize you still have it.

As for Crazy, I know how you feel. You aren't the only one who felt like the world was coming to an end. You are over glorifying every aspect of your ex (yes, your EX!! ), and the parts that you aren't glorifying you are professing the ability to change. You aren't a miracle worker, and unfortunately her problems are HER problems, not yours. If you are determined to wait on her to give you closure (because you obviously cannot accept her actions as such), you could be waiting for eternity. I am sure that you are way too good to be "waiting" on some girl to let you know how she feels about you. That is just not fair.

His emotional state is NOWHERE near a "get laid and get over it" mindset. This is horrible advice given the situation. You even note yourself that it can put him in a bigger mess, well I know it would and why would he need a bigger mess right now?

Review your day and make some changes, so you will be ready to sleep at night and be on a regular cycle. Honestly what did you do today?
Her actions are her words and she is speaking LOUD and CLEAR! The problem is YOU HAVEN'T ACCEPTED HER ACTIONS TOWARD YOU!!!
You want closure, you don't need it. Its highly unlikely she will give you what you want, so deal with what you have. That's all the closure she will give you.
She has been thinking of letting you go a long time, so when she finally made that decision, it came as a shock to you. Happens to us all when we get dumped.
Your right she has loser friends to support her through this, but all you have is us. The question is, why you have no friends to support you? Hmmmm! That will have to change, and shows us all how wrapped up in her your life was, so of course you lost a lot of yourself, as well as her. There is a lesson to learn here, so don't miss the point!!
The problem with that is you will feel good for a minute, but are only replacing one problem for another, like a junkie who starts drinking to get off drugs. Listen to us, and you will get further on with your healing, much faster.
Keep coming! We keep talking!
I have had many exes who have had that effect, so yeah, I feel Ya! I have to laugh, because I felt the same as you do now!! The bad news(?) it will happen again.
Be careful what you ask for. Pray for strength and clarity of thought, and for her future happiness.
Your stringing yourself along just to be honest, her actions are clear to everyone who reads this thread, THAT YOU WROTE.
The lesson here is don't invest so much of yourself into a person with destructive issues, as your learning. All dope fiends and alcoholics have their good side.
More life lessons to learn, YOU CAN'T CONTROL, CHANGE, OR FIX ANYONE, just yourself, do so now!

Everyone changes, and grows, even you, as your painfully finding out. Make the right adjustments, based on fact, and not just feelings.

Nice rant by the way,. I mean vent!! :eek:

Thank you everyone for helping and commenting!!

YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!

Today I feel much better and althoug I can't understand her reasons, I'm taking your advice and letting that part go.

But I do have one question:

I told her that I would give her time to think and decide what she wanted to do. This was 2 weeks ago.

Is this long enough then? I'm not trying necessarily to hold out on her, I'm just wondering if she wanted me, then if she would have already made that choice. I know if the shoe was on the other foot and she gave me a choice then, 2 weeks would have been sufficient time for me.

Comments please. Thanks a bunch everyone!! :)

There are only two things in life I wait for:

1. Beer (If I am at a bar being served, otherwise I handle this myself)
2. My beloved Chiefs winning a Super Bowl

The rest, I go handle myself. She hasn't come to you, so she has made her choice, and if she hasn't still made a choice, it is time you make it for her. GAME OVER!!

I am going back to my the original quote...

"Pain is inevitable. Suffering is OPTIONAL."

Stop CHOOSING to suffer through this. You need a new focus.

Books
Movie
TV
Gym
Darts
ANYTHING.

You must plan on living forever Kc, Chiefs will never win a Superbowl

I can't lose faith, but believe me, I am getting very impatient. At least Pioli will make things interesting (Sorry to the OP for going off topic here)

I'm an Eagles fan, enough said


Maybe he will jump into this conversation and start to forget about his ex