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    #61

    Oct 7, 2008, 07:42 AM

    Well even more so , give him space! And why would you want to stay friends when it is clear you still have feelings. NC is the best way to go. If he wants you back he knows where to find you.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 07:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by HistorianChick View Post
    Are you happy when you're by yourself? Do you feel complete without a guy? I'm not saying that you should NEVER have a guy, I'm just saying that you should be ok by yourself. You should be happy with who you are apart from a guy. He shouldn't be your identity.

    Hopefully, you got a little sense out of some of these ramblings.
    I am an only child so I am definitely OK with being alone :) I live alone and I have no problem with shopping and exercising by myself. Sure, everyone wants to have a companion. Who doesn't? I had no contact with my ex for 7 1/2 months. I think what I am having a hard time understanding is WHY he doesn't want to be bothered with me. Like I said before in an earlier post, I am a good catch for him. I don't want to turn this into a "holier than thou" rant, but I gave him the world. I exposed him to things he may not have ever experienced without me. I am disappointed that means nothing to him.
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    #63

    Oct 7, 2008, 07:54 AM

    Talaniman rule- Never look back when you get DUMPED!!!
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    Oct 7, 2008, 07:57 AM

    Again, why should the ball be in his court... considering he was the one that did all the hurting. I know, sounds odd that someone would want to be with a person who has hurt them, but I can forgive (not forget). I feel like I am being blamed for everything. I think maybe one or two people have acknowledged how mean he is acting...
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    Oct 7, 2008, 07:59 AM
    Yeah but I think I wanted to believe he had changed. Hell, he was the one that pitched the idea he was making a difference in his life... ( something told me that was a lie, but meh). He was the one that allowed us to hook up a few weeks ago... now this... come on.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 08:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by AmExp View Post
    I am an only child so I am definitely ok with being alone :) I live alone and I have no problem with shopping and exercising by myself. Sure, everyone wants to have a companion. Who doesn't? I had no contact with my ex for 7 1/2 months.

    I think what I am having a hard time understanding is WHY he doesn't want to be bothered with me. Like I said before in an earlier post, I am a good catch for him. I don't want to turn this into a "holier than thou" rant, but I gave him the world. I exposed him to things he may not have ever experienced without me. I am disappointed that means nothing to him.
    So, bottom line, you feel as if he "owes" you?

    Be honest with me here, would you be content with a love that is "owed" or would you rather have a love that is freely given? Do you want him to be with you simply because he owes you for the time spent and experiences given?

    That's what happens in a relationship. You give things, you get experiences. You are exposed to things that you wouldn't be exposed to if you weren't with that person. You gained things, he gained things.

    No one can tell you why he doesn't want to be bothered. But, hon, he dumped you. He let you go. That was his choice. Maybe he DID lose the best thing that ever happened to him and doesn't know it yet. But, don't live your life thinking that he will one day realize that and come back to you.

    Don't make him a priority in your life when you are simply a possibility (as it says in Tal's signature). Don't wish for a love that is owed... wait for the love that is freely and completely given.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 08:08 AM

    Let me break it down for you... I don't think he owes me, but there is MORE to this story than I am saying. I don't really want to put myself out there... but he caused great strife between my family and I. My friends hated him, tried to sabotage us by giving me bad advice, whatever you can think of. My mother did a background check on him, wanted to hire a private I to bring him down, he exposed me to a lifestyle I had NEVER seen up close and personal before, I HAD SPENT $11,000 on OUR relationship. I am a COLLEGE STUDENT! What do YOU think Historic... I understand that part of relationship was give and take... but I was just down right taken advantage of in the situation. He admitted that is what happened in the beginning. I did all of these things because I LOVE HIM and wanted him to be happy!
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    #68

    Oct 7, 2008, 08:16 AM

    What do I think?

    Bottom line, I'm not going to hold back here... so please forgive me in advance if this offends you.

    You spent 11K on a guy, he dumped you, and you want him back? That's crazy. He did the best thing for you when he dumped you. Some dumps are harder than others, but looking at this from an outsiders opinion? You're much better off.

    Cut your losses. Heal your heart. Don't leave the door open for him. You may have loved him, you may STILL love him, but for your own sake, let him go.

    Don't be just another helpless woman. Stand up for yourself and stop trying to fix this.
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    #69

    Oct 7, 2008, 08:27 AM

    I see...

    Hopeless? I don't think so.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 08:29 AM

    Helpless, not hopeless. There's a big difference.

    Never be either.
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    #71

    Oct 7, 2008, 08:36 AM

    Well the bottom line is that I do not have his contact information anymore.
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    #72

    Oct 7, 2008, 08:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by AmExp View Post
    Let me break it down for you....I don't think he owes me, but there is MORE to this story than I am saying. I don't really want to put myself out there...but he caused great strife between my family and I. My friends hated him, tried to sabotage us by giving me bad advice, whatever you can think of. My mother did a background check on him, wanted to hire a private I to bring him down, he exposed me to a lifestyle I had NEVER seen up close and personal before, I HAD SPENT $11,000 on OUR relationship. I am a COLLEGE STUDENT! What do YOU think Historic...I understand that part of relationship was give and take...but I was just down right taken advantage of in the situation. He admitted that is what happened in the beginning. I did all of these things because I LOVE HIM and wanted him to be happy!

    Okay, time for some tough love dear.

    Did he hold a gun to your head and force you to give him money? Did he steal the money from you?

    This guy used you then tossed you away. He chewed you up and spit you out, and the sad thing is, you want more.

    So, do you want to be a toy for this guy? A little play thing that he can use, break and throw away whenever he wants? Or do you want more?

    The secret is to learn from your mistakes and then move on. You know that you made a mistake, why do you keep wanting to repeat it? Did it really feel that great the first time around?

    He has all the power, but only because you're giving it to him. Does he deserve it? Only you can decide that.

    Either stick to No contact, forget him, learn from this experience and move on, or, go back, get hurt again, and again, and again. It's your life, you have to decide, but realize, people treat you the way you let them.

    Good luck.
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    #73

    Oct 7, 2008, 08:56 AM

    I miss spoke Boris... damn. There was no need to rate that.
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    #74

    Oct 7, 2008, 09:08 AM

    He was the one that allowed us to hook up a few weeks ago... now this... come on.
    If you want to really complicate things, continue to deny responsibility for your own actions. You can't blame him for everything that happened because you went along with it.

    Save some anger and blame for yourself.
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    #75

    Oct 7, 2008, 09:28 AM

    Whatever... I am not blaming him for everything, but there what is so wrong with me going along with it? Especially when I felt as though there could have been some hope or resurrecting the relationship.
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    #76

    Oct 7, 2008, 09:48 AM

    You don't get to agree, and go along and blame him, when it doesn't work the way you wanted.
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    #77

    Oct 7, 2008, 11:41 AM

    OK! Again, thanks everyone. It's whatever at this point. I am sick of men and all that goes with relationships. This is b.s.
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    #78

    Oct 7, 2008, 11:57 AM

    Just know there are good guys out there, I've one. You just haven't found him yet and it seems that you settle for guys you shouldn't. Sometimes when your not looking your find it so just keep your eyes open.
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    #79

    Oct 7, 2008, 12:10 PM

    I settle because like I said in my earlier posts... I have dealt with guys that I am used to and they still failed me. It appears to be a lose lose situation. So far I have not seen a guy that is worth a damn and has these qualifications:

    1. COLLEGE EDUCATED ( at least)
    2. NO RECORD/SEX OFFENDER
    3. NO CHILDREN
    4. FINANCIALLY SOUND
    5. HAS A JOB ( Independently wealthy is accepted) Haha
    6. RESPECTFUL TO ME AND HIS MOTHER ( obviously to people in general, but how he treats his mother is a sure sign)
    7. CARING/LOVING/NICE
    8. GOOD LOOKING/TALL (I prefer at least 6'0)


    8 SIMPLE RULES TO ME!

    Yet, I the guys always fall short somewhere... ugh
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    Oct 7, 2008, 12:18 PM

    These are not unreasonable. You don't have to settle for anything less.

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