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  • Jan 21, 2009, 08:28 PM
    kghastie
    Yikes! Does the blue thermostat wire go to the C terminal?
    Hi. I'm trying to install a Honeywell RTH7600 programmable thermostat. I've detached my old thermostat, and I'm trying to figure out how to match up the wires. It's heat and air conditioning, and the old thermostat was a pretty basic, older round variety (also honeywell).

    Problem is that I have a red, a white, a green and a blue wire. I can't figure out where the blue wire goes. Does it attach to C (I saw that on another post on this site).

    Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I'm in Chicago and it is FREEZING here, and I don't think I'll be able to get the old thermostat reattached (the wire stubs are too short and my screwdriver doesn't fit the screws to take off the plate!)

    Wires from wall

    R -> R
    W -> W
    G -> G
    B ->?

    New thermostat:

    R (jumpered to RC)
    W
    G
    C
    Y

    Thanks in advance!
  • Jan 21, 2009, 09:57 PM
    hvacservicetech_07

    The blue wire will connect to the "Y" terminal on the new thermostat.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 07:58 AM
    kghastie

    Hmmm. Well, I attached it to the C terminal and the heat at least seems to be working. What does the Blue and Y terminals do? Are you sure that it's Y and not C?
  • Jan 22, 2009, 11:30 AM
    dac122

    Here is the generally accepted convention for colors and terminals. It would be common sense for the previous person to wire according to that standard, but common sense isn't as common as you'd think.

    Trace down that blue wire then you'll have your answer or repost with what you found.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 11:47 AM
    kghastie
    So I'm not quite sure what I am supposed to look for on that page (or "trace") that would give me my answer. That site does not suggest anything for a blue wire except to go to Y2 for a heat pump, which I don't think I have (although I am guessing).

    I am getting more confused now. Maybe if someone could explain to me what each of the 4 wires does?
  • Jan 22, 2009, 11:52 AM
    dac122
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kghastie View Post
    So I'm not quite sure what I am supposed to look for on that page (or "trace") that would give me my answer. That site does not suggest anything for a blue wire except to go to Y2 for a heat pump, which I don't think I have (although I am guessing).

    I am getting more confused now. Maybe if someone could explain to me what each of the 4 wires does?

    It also lists blue as Sometimes common side of transformer. Try to follow that blue through the wall or and on to wherever it goes, or go open your air handler or furnace and see if the blue appears there.

    It would also be helpful to know what we are controlling: furnace only, furnace and A/C, boiler, etc. Make and model too.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 12:05 PM
    kghastie

    So since the blue wires are only listed under heat pump, does that mean I have a heat pump? How would I figure that out?

    I mentioned that it is heating and air conditioning, but I don't know much more than that (I'm not at home right now to check out a model #).

    It's gas, and it heats a large single-person apartment (my landlord is a deadbeat - that's why I am installing a thermostat myself without even knowing what kind of furnace I have). The old thermostat looked somewhat like this one:

    http://www.inspect-ny.com/heat/Therm...ell537-DFs.jpg

    It had Auto/Fan On and Heat/Cool/Off settings. Mercury tube inside.

    The furnace itself was replaced recently, but I am pretty sure the thermostat is fairly old. I wouldn't trust that whoever installed the new furnace used proper techniques or standard wire colors (again, the landlords don't really care and have pretty sloppy, slap-dash repairmen on staff).

    I can't trace the wires into the wall very far, but it's possible I'd be able to see where they connect to the furnace when I get home.

    Does any of that help?

    Thanks a lot!
  • Jan 22, 2009, 12:09 PM
    dac122

    Understood, and because this is not your property I would suggest you find out where that blue wire goes. Just so you know if you connect it up wrong you could blow the furnace transformer. Usually not an expensive fix but not something you want to get into, especially since its not your equipment.

    Let us know what you find.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 04:30 PM
    hvacservicetech_07

    Hook the blue wire to the "Y" terminal and be done. Years ago they made a 4 wire cable that contained red,white,green and blue wires

    Red-24 volts (power)
    Green-Blower
    Blue- air conditioning
    White-heat.
  • Jan 22, 2009, 11:50 PM
    kghastie
    Great - thanks guys! I'll connect it to the Y. So what is the C terminal that I have it connected to currently?
  • Jan 22, 2009, 11:57 PM
    KISS

    C is common. Between C and R there will be 24 V all the time. "C" allows a thermostat to not relay on batteries and just use the batteries for backup. Mercury thermometers did not need the "C" terminal.
  • Jan 23, 2009, 06:37 AM
    dac122

    If you go back to the page I posted you'll see a diagram. At the top is a transformer to drive the thermostat. C is the common/neutral from a 24VAC transformer and R is usually the hot side. As mentioned some thermostats need power to drive their electronics, but your tstat use 24VAC, battery or both. Since you have no common you must power it with batteries.

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