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J_9 · Dec 30, 2006, 05:53 PM

Buggage, I have to say that was awsome!!

There are many breastfed babies who suffer from colic. When the mother re-evaluates what she eats and finds that she has been eating gassy foods, then takes those foods out of her diet, the infant is no longer colicy. Foods like garlic, broccoli, onions and the like pass through into the breastmilk, just as alcohol does.

I remember one time in particular I had roasted garlic spread on fresh baked bread. I later fed my son and lo and behold he had garlic breath. Now, if garlic can pass and cause the same reaction in the infant that it does in the mother, then why can't alcohol?

I believe what happened to LouLou was that the physician felt that she was endangering her child, I see it frequently.

And I agree that Motherofseven77 should take her rantings elsewhere rather than hurting a mother who was already hurt and only spoke up to share her story.

Thank you LouLou for sharing what had to have been a very painful story. I hope to God that all works out for you in the end.

buggage · Dec 30, 2006, 06:16 PM

Thanks j9. I've been watching this posting, and I couldn't keep from posting my own opinion anymore. It just seems to me that there appears to be more concern over the mother being able to have her fun, then he baby's well being here. It sounds very selfish to me. Esp. when it came to hurting another woman that was sharing her painful side of the story. I don't know her whole story, but "mother of seven" certainly doesn't either, and it was unkind to pass judgement on her as having her baby taken away for more reasons then just having an occasional drink, just so that her opinion wasn't taken as being wrong. Like I have said before, this site is meant to help people, not make people feel dumb.

J_9 · Dec 30, 2006, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by buggage

this site is meant to help people, not make people feel dumb.

This is why I answer in plain english rather than in medical terms or quote textobooks, or other online references.

I don't want anyone to feel dumb. I want people here to feel like they are talking to a friend, not a reference book! :p

Going-Crazy · Dec 30, 2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by J_9

This is why I answer in plain english rather than in medical terms or quote textobooks, or other online references.

I don't want anyone to feel dumb. I want people here to feel like they are talking to a friend, not a reference book!!:p

Okay, I have just read everything and Im glad people have shared their stories and beliefs.
I just want to say that I now believe from reading posts here and researching this issue online that there are MANY opinions on this. Some saying drinking is OK and some saying not to drink at all.
My conclusion is if there is even the slightest possibility that even a DROP of alcohol can go into the baby it isn't worth it! Having a child means not being selfish. And if you would go all 9 months without drinking, why would you drink while breastfeeding? Isn't IT BETTER TO BE SAFE THEN SORRY?
If you need to drink so bad, use formula. But also if you need to drink so bad, maybe you have a problem with alcohol.
Clean, healthy breastmilk is way better then formula, I think anyone will agree on that. So I think my friend needs to stop being selfish and stop drinking, even a drop! I am no longer going to babysit for her baby because I don't feel comfortable giving the baby what may be alcohol laced breastmilk. And if she is still drinking a lot while breastfeeding, I WILL do something about it!
Thank you all for your advice.

J_9 · Dec 30, 2006, 06:58 PM

I read that you spoke to her and it ended up badly. Maybe that was a wakeup call to her.

I am sorry it ended up badly, but you could recommend what Buggage said, "pump it and dump it" That way she can still have her drink if she wants one, but the baby will not get the alcohol.

Or recommend that when you are sitting you would feel more comfortable with formula.