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    #21

    Feb 12, 2008, 09:37 AM
    For those who are bashing me:

    I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF YOU VALIDATE THAT PLUMBING CAN BE MOVED WITHOUT TOOLS AND THAT WE CAN CLEAN THEM OUT OURSELVES.

    Why don't you leave your comments on this thread so I can rate you also.


    Obviously something I said is pushing some buttons for some people which is totally UNINTENTIONALLY on my side.
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    #22

    Feb 12, 2008, 09:45 AM
    Dana, some parts of a drain can be removed by hand, the P trap for instance if you have PVC. Not true if you have thinwall metal traps. However the source of most slow sink drains is higher up near the pop up mechanism and that requires tools. Shy asked about a home receipe forkeeping drains running free and that's what I have tried to stay with, the concoction is better for preventing problems than for fixing them.
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    #23

    Feb 12, 2008, 10:42 AM
    Dana2007

    So you successfully removed and cleaned you trap, that's hardly 1% of your plumbing system. If that's all you ever have to do, it's because a plumber did it right the first time. Plumbing is hard and usually dirty work, and more complicated than you think. Plumbers don't deserve your statement. Don't tick the plumber off because you are going to need him one day. And I am not a plumber.
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    #24

    Feb 12, 2008, 10:46 AM
    The only reason I have to go in there to clean it out is because the plumbers did it wrong. I had the plumbing upgraded to plastic and ever since then I have had to go in there and clean it out on a regular basis.


    ANY AMATEUR CAN SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. IT TOOK ME A SECOND TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY SINK GOT BACKED UP BECAUSE THE PLUMBER INTENTIONALLY MADE IT CROOKED. I JUST WENT IN THERE AND CLEANED IT OUT MYSELF.

    I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S RELUCTANCE TO BE HONEST. BECAUSE THEN THE PLUMBERS HERE WILL REBEL AGAINST YOU AND REFUSE TO HELP YOU IN THE FUTURE.
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    #25

    Feb 12, 2008, 10:53 AM
    If you can post a picture of your PVC trap and lateral drain maybe we can diagnois what's wrong with it. Are you finding debris building up in the P trap or where? I do not agree that all plumber should be getting a bad rap, they are like any other tradesman. Some are great, some are average and some don't belong in your home but most don't deserve to be called scammers.
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    #26

    Feb 12, 2008, 11:08 AM
    No, not all deserve to be called scammers but some obviously do.

    Anyone who refuses to agree with me, has some obvious issues with the word "scammers."
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    #27

    Feb 12, 2008, 11:11 AM
    I want to add that when the plumbing is done incorrectly, no amount of chemicals or baking soda or tarter sauce is going to work.

    You will need to go in there and clean it out manually.

    If you do it manually like i do it, you don't have to spend money on the baking soda or any chemicals.
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    #28

    Feb 12, 2008, 11:13 AM
    Guys... gals... can we stop please. Dana2007, I got your reddie :) I was expecting it. So now we are even... ok?

    See I think you hit a cord here some of the people on here really really work hard at it. Some of us got involved because we know how hard they work to really help people out in here.

    You said it was unintentionally that you insulted some of us... ok. I appreciate that. Can we please get back to helping others.

    Thank you.
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    #29

    Feb 12, 2008, 11:15 AM
    So that means no pictures I guess. I was trying to help you with your drain issue. PS its Cream of Tartar not Tarter sauce, it's a crystalline acid scraped from the inside of old wine barrels.
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    #30

    Feb 12, 2008, 12:39 PM
    Dana, I am trying to understand but your rant is about enough. Honestly, I do not know any scam plumbers. I would be one of the last ones to try and undo my pipes - even if it was easy because if I mess it up - then it falls all to me. Now if I had my own home, perhaps, if I knew a ring went down the drain and it was sitting in the u shaped pipe below the sink.

    Thank you for your input but no more bashing, please.
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    #31

    Feb 12, 2008, 05:40 PM
    Please read this post very carefully.

    There is no need to remove or undo any of the plumbing. Just losen one of the nuts to allow for enough flexibility to move one piece to the side in order to gain access to the inside to clean.
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    #32

    Feb 12, 2008, 06:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Dana2007
    Please read this post very carefully.

    There is no need to remove or undo any of the plumbing. just losen one of the nuts to allow for enough flexibility to move one piece to the side in order to gain access to the inside to clean.
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    Y'know, I should have recognized the signs a lot earlier.
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    #33

    Feb 12, 2008, 06:15 PM
    Someone asked a question and I answered it.

    Please learn to read and understand.
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    #34

    Feb 12, 2008, 06:21 PM
    I got the answers I needed, thank you very much. I wish I knew how to close a thread because it should be closed, as of now.
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