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  • Jul 27, 2007, 02:48 PM
    wrbriggs
    Elbow leaking below kitchen sink
    I am not a very handy person, but have noticed a leak underneath my kitchen sink. I will try to describe what I see; I am hoping someone will be able to help me.

    There is a garbage disposal going into a pipe, and there is also a smaller pipe hooked into this with the dishwasher drain connected to it via a hose clamp. The pipe then goes into a "U" shaped dip (the trap?), then back up slightly, and down into the floor.

    The water is dripping from the bottom of the "U" shaped pipe, but I am unable to tell if there is actually a hole, or if the water is leaking out from somewhere else and dripping down the pipe. Nothing else feels or seems wet, and I don't see water leaking from anywhere - I also don't feel a hole or crack where the drip is coming from.

    Is there any possible way I can fix this myself (I do know how to solder), or am I better off just hiring a plumber?

    Thanks,
    Will
  • Jul 27, 2007, 02:53 PM
    scirocco70
    What material is the pipe made of? If it's white plastic, it's PVC and that would be best for you...


    Does the U-shaped section (yes, the trap) have any large nuts on it? IE, is there a part you can unscrew? If so, I suggest that taking those nuts off and removing the trap (good time to clean it out. Put a pan under there when you take it off to catch the water that's in it) and cleaning the threads and everything really nice and reassembling.

    If your leak was at the compression fitting (the nut), which is common, this should take care of it.

    You can probably pinpoint the leak by first drying everything off very well, then use a wad of toilet paper and touch the pipes etc starting from the top down. The first place it gets wet is your leak. Run water through the drain as you do this.
  • Jul 27, 2007, 02:56 PM
    wrbriggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scirocco70
    What material is the pipe made out of? If it's white plastic, it's PVC and that would be best for you...


    Does the U-shaped section (yes, the trap) have any large nuts on it? IE, is there a part you can unscrew? If so, i suggest that taking those nuts off and removing the trap (good time to clean it out. Put a pan under there when you take it off to catch the water that's in it) and cleaning the threads and everything really nice and reassembling.

    If your leak was at the compression fitting (the nut), which is common, this should take care of it.

    You can probably pinpoint the leak by first drying everything off very well, then use a wad of toilet paper and touch the pipes etc starting from the top down. The first place it gets wet is your leak. Run water through the drain as you do this.

    Thank you for the quick reply! The pipes are metal - based on research I have done, I am guessing brass. In addition, everything appears to be soldered together rather than screwed together. I am thinking this may be too large a project for me, but I wanted to make sure there isn't any relatively straightforward way I can fix this before I call in a plumber.
  • Jul 27, 2007, 02:59 PM
    scirocco70
    I would still do the toilet-paper test before you call someone, and also check/tighten the clamp where the dishwasher drains.

    Metal pipes are most likely brass, yes.
  • Jul 27, 2007, 03:09 PM
    wrbriggs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scirocco70
    I would still do the toilet-paper test before you call someone, and also check/tighten the clamp where the dishwasher drains.

    Metal pipes are most likely brass, yes.

    Ok, so... toilet paper test shows that it is dripping directly from the bottom of the trap. The trap itself is most definitely soldered onto the pipes - there is a large nut connecting the pipe to the output from the garbage disposal, but after that, everything appears to be soldered, including the connection to the sewer drain. Without un-soldering the entire thing, there doesn't appear to be a good way to get this apart.
  • Jul 28, 2007, 12:25 AM
    scirocco70
    Generally you don't un-solder... you cut it out and solder new pieces in, or use compression fittings.

    There is probably a kit at your local Home Depot (or equiv) for exactly this.

    Have a peek at a book, and I'll bet you can handle the job!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 01:30 PM
    stew_1962
    How old is this house? It could be lead pipes, which I have seen soldered together as mentioned.

    Compression fittings don't do well with lead, as cutting them out usually causes deformation - even the slightest causes a real headache. I had to cut all of mine out... back to the cast iron and start over.

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