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  • Sep 13, 2009, 04:40 PM
    kircpat
    DSL works but Landline Phones don't work
    Hello

    I have been trying to debug an issue for 2 days. I have an Open House Telephone Entry Module H611 which is hooked up to Open House 4x8 Telephone Expansion Hub H618. My DSL is working fine. Also, I have dial tone at Network Box outside the House. I unplugged all the phones from the jacks inside the house and tried one at a time but no dial tone. I have found that the Blue and Blue/White striped wires have a short between them (not hard short but 40 ohms). The H618 Expansion Hub does not seem to have a short. I have tried opening couple of wall jacks inside the rooms and there seems to be no short there. I have 3 more rooms to check.

    Also, when I call the landline phone from my cell then I get a Busy Signal. Another thing I noticed is that if I wiggle the wires by the Expansion Hub then I seem to hear a distant busy tone with some static

    In the mean while any help will be greatly appreciated.
  • Sep 13, 2009, 05:29 PM
    KISS

    Remove the jumper on the H611 and plug a phone in to the leftmost jack. Line will probably be OK. Pull right-most jumper to H618 and plug phone in there. Line probably bad.

    Bet surge devices are fried in the H611 module but are not illuminating LEDS.
  • Sep 13, 2009, 06:45 PM
    kircpat

    Hello, thanks for the quick response. I have tried this. I get the dial tone on the rightmost jack on H611 that is connected to H618.

    There is also an OUT jack (just below IN jack) on H618 expansion Hub. If I plug the phone into this OUT jack there is no Dial Tone which left me to assume that there was something wrong at or after H618 expansion hub. I found using a Multimeter that there is a short between Blue and Blue/White stripped lines on H618. This means the short is either on H618 or on any of the wall jacks or on the long cable. Now the expansion Hub has 8 connectors each with 8 lines (only 4 lines are used blue/white and orange/white). The Blue and striped Blue/white wires are shorted on all 8 connectors which is why I think none of the phone jacks in the rooms work. When I call the phone from my cell, I hear busy signal which means short (which I measured using the meter)

    Do you have any other ideas to narrow this down?

    Thanks
  • Sep 13, 2009, 07:07 PM
    KISS

    You only need to pop one of the wires blu/wht or wht/blu.

    So, remove 4 blu/wht, say 4 to the left. If dial tone returns, then it's the 4 on the right. If it doesn't return, then remove 2 more.

    You could get lucky, but in any event you don't have to remove all of the wires that are punched down. Only 8 of them.
  • Sep 14, 2009, 10:15 AM
    kircpat
    Again, thanks for the comments. Based on my last but previous response I had mentioned that I still had to check the jacks in 3 rooms which I did today. As suspected there was a short between Blue and White wires inside the jack in my son's room. All I had to do was just plug in a cable into that jack which seemed to stress the jack enough to remove the short. I now have all the phones working in the house.

    It took 2 full days to debug this issue and I hope this will help out folks out there if they face similar issues and save some debug time

    Thanks
  • Sep 14, 2009, 11:15 AM
    KISS

    Congrats.

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