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talaniman · Sep 16, 2018, 09:55 AM

I said a while back that if Hillary can go through decades of scrutiny, very publicly I might add, by you guys, then The Dufus can darn well be subjected to the same scrutiny. Then we can compare the results. How about that?

tomder55 · Sep 16, 2018, 01:57 PM

jlisenbe · Sep 16, 2018, 02:40 PM

I said a while back that if Hillary can go through decades of scrutiny, very publicly I might add, by you guys, then The Dufus can darn well be subjected to the same scrutiny. Then we can compare the results. How about that?

Deal. Just bear in mind that Comey said she was plainly guilty in the whole deal of having confidential files in her personal possession, but simply declined to prosecute. That she destroyed evidence seems plain to anyone willing to look. Her foolish behavior of conducting government business on a non-secure email server was beyond belief.

talaniman · Sep 16, 2018, 03:39 PM

The good news everybody in the country has gotten hacked except... you guessed it... Hillary.

jlisenbe · Sep 16, 2018, 05:32 PM

The good news everybody in the country has gotten hacked except... you guessed it... Hillary.

A high school student could've hacked HC's server. Please don't try to say the Russkies didn't know what she had. And everyone got hacked??? Nah.

paraclete · Sep 16, 2018, 06:06 PM

What does weather have to do with Dilliary, everything is not about politics

talaniman · Sep 17, 2018, 05:50 AM

The right wing and the draconian political agenda driven by the dufus makes everything about politics. They hate Hillary and would rather keep her alive in the public and deny science while they rob the poor to enrich themselves. Funny how they politicize Florence for weakening at the shores, yet say nothing about the rivers and creeks that are so swollen they flood communities within 2 states and a rainfront sure to affect many more states before it's over.

You have to be really careful listening to those loonies Clete, especially about science, logic, or the facts of the matter, because they always start hollering about how lefties are corrupt and out to get them. They are just happy they avoided Hurricane Hillary, but can't explain the mess the Dufus is making.

paraclete · Sep 17, 2018, 07:04 AM

You have to be really careful listening to those loonies Clete

Which loonies are they? The ones who think that the science is settled when the evidence points to a cause other than CO2, the loonies who elected Trump because they couldn't stand Dilliary? Maybe Trump is making a mess. But it is a strange mess in which employment is the best it is in years and the economy is buoyant. I know inflation will kick in soon and you can blame Trump but until then

talaniman · Sep 17, 2018, 08:35 AM

I think reasonable people can agree that measures that reduce mans pollution of the air, water, and land is a good thing for everybody. You cannot always break it down to who makes money and who doesn't, nor ignore the environmental effects of mans mistakes. If you have never lived close enough to know that then I can see your not understanding it fully.

There is a profound reason rich guys never live close to coal fired power plants, or oil refineries, but guess who does? Yes it costs money to scrub and capture waste material, but isn't that the cost of doing business? Go ahead drink the water, or build your mansion on a dumping ground, or have one near you and then tell me clean air, water, and land don't matter. Facts and data matter but what you do with them matters more, so denying the facts is no better than ignoring them.

After the floods that Florence brings it's the dirt and debri that's left. Or would you prefer being on a beach that mans junk and gunk washes up on? Didn't learn a thing from Valdez, or the gulf spills or those various sites in Michigan that they are still cleaning up after years and decades.

Go ahead wait for the dufus to screw up and then clean up his mess. It's preventable now if you stop listening to his lies and feckless sycophants.

tomder55 · Sep 17, 2018, 09:12 AM

think reasonable people can agree that measures that reduce mans pollution of the air, water, and land is a good thing for everybody.

go ahead with your case without this fear mongering AGW nonsense .

There is a profound reason rich guys never live close to coal fired power plants, or oil refineries, but guess who does?

yeah that rich guys builds beach front mansions instead. Not a wise more from someone who probably spends their lives making risk evaluations . If this AGW thing had credibility that rich guy would be building on a big hill .

jlisenbe · Sep 17, 2018, 10:48 AM

Go ahead wait for the dufus to screw up and then clean up his mess. It's preventable now if you stop listening to his lies and feckless sycophants.

Thank goodness you don't engage in hate speech. I never cease to be amazed at the hatred and vitriol directed at Trump from the left. You have lost the ability to be civil in making your case for the opposition. The mean-spirited name calling gets kind of old.

talaniman · Sep 17, 2018, 08:15 PM

I don't like racists bullies!

paraclete · Sep 17, 2018, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Thank goodness you don't engage in hate speech. I never cease to be amazed at the hatred and vitriol directed at Trump from the left. You have lost the ability to be civil in making your case for the opposition. The mean-spirited name calling gets kind of old.

So does changing the topic of the question to some crap you want to discuss, you want to talk about Hilliary open a topic, you want to talk about climate change open a topic. Me, I'm interested in the response to the outcome of this weather, is anyone interested in what happened to people in the Philippines or even the US. Talk about been mean spirited, you take the cake

jlisenbe · Sep 18, 2018, 01:01 AM

When you say doing nothing are you speaking about the response to the devastation? That would be the Trump response.

This was your first response to your own question. So guess who started the political responses?? Yes, that would be you. Good grief this gets old.

paraclete · Sep 18, 2018, 06:51 AM

No you started it by introducing the Paris Accords into what had nothing to do with climate change, now you are ducking and projecting, you are a manipulator

talaniman · Sep 18, 2018, 07:29 AM

Politics aside for a minute, a million people are without power in the Carolinas, and flooding from Florence has displaced hundreds of thousands, many without flood insurance or resources to rebuild or clean up when they do get home which as of now is unknown. It continues into the southern new England regions bringing more heavy rains and floods with it.

It ain't over yet. Day 5 and counting.

jlisenbe · Sep 18, 2018, 10:17 AM

Note that 7 of the highest 8 seasons for major hurricanes occurred BEFORE the year 2000, so maybe doing nothing is not a bad idea.

That was my first response, after which you responded about Trump. Do you see anything about Paris in there? It was a post about hurricanes, right in line with your topic. Then YOU brought up Trump. So who introduced politics? If you said "Clete", you go to the front of the line.

Later I did make a reference to Paris, which kind of makes sense considering that the Paris Climate Accord was about... the climate!!

Now I think I misunderstood the intent of your original post. I thought you were referring to doing something about climate change. Evidently you were talking about how to respond to storms which is certainly a valid topic. I still don't know why you brought Trump into it, but who knows.

paraclete · Sep 18, 2018, 03:06 PM

My reference to Trump was a question of how he might respond given the dismal record in PR, not waffling on about climate change, but then waffling is what you do

jlisenbe · Sep 18, 2018, 03:41 PM

Like I said. You brought in the politics.

talaniman · Sep 18, 2018, 04:30 PM

Hard to separate politics from reality, motives, behavior, and policy nowadays. Pulling out of an organization that includes everybody but a few doesn't sound that great of an idea, especially since it was non binding but relationships could be built. But of course leave it to the Dufus to shun being part of something greater than himself.