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    #101

    Jan 26, 2019, 10:20 AM
    prove Stone did anything illegal besides the process crime . It does happen all the time to white collar defendents . Comey nailed Martha Stewart with the same Bs when he had no insider trading case against her . She went to jail for no reason except to advance his career.
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    #102

    Jan 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
    Like the process crime is not bad enough. It's just getting started so why beat the drum for Stone... you know his history as well as I do.
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    Jan 26, 2019, 03:00 PM
    I know he is a trickster . In politics that is not a crime . What the indictment does is charge him with an attempted cover up of a non-existant crime .
    Even if Stone had actually obtained and shared hacked emails from WikiLeaks (as many news organizations eventually did), it would not have been a crime. Lying to a congressional committee about those noncriminal acts is another matter. I'm not defending him for that . Like I said if equal justice under the law is the criteria then I could recommend a conga line of people who openly and proudly lied to Congress and bragged about it afterwards . John Brennan comes immediately to mind.
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    #104

    Jan 27, 2019, 08:41 AM
    He's charged with lying to congress, and other illegal activities, in failing to disclose his active role in trying to get access to what WikiLeaks was doing at the behest of someone(s) from the WH.

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-ally-ro...114015240.html

    Mueller said in court papers that Stone shared with multiple members of the Trump campaign team advance knowledge he had of a plan by WikiLeaks to release senior Democrats' emails...
    The charges mark the first time the Trump campaign has been publicly tied to WikiLeaks by Mueller's team and add to pressure on the president as the newly installed Democratic majority in the House of Representatives plans to step up investigations of him.
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    Jan 27, 2019, 10:54 AM
    That someone was Steve Bannon .
    Even if Stone had actually obtained and shared hacked emails from WikiLeaks (as many news organizations eventually did), it would not have been a crime.
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    #106

    Jan 27, 2019, 04:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    prove Stone did anything illegal besides the process crime .
    A note on so-called “process crimes.” Imagine if people could lie to investigators, tamper with witnesses, and obstruct justice without penalty. The justice system would grind to a halt. Process crimes are still crimes. Shame on those who try to minimize their significance.
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    #107

    Jan 27, 2019, 04:46 PM
    tamper with witnesses,
    Kind of like someone who tampers with evidence??

    Shame on those who try to minimize their significance.
    Sure something to consider.
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    #108

    Jan 27, 2019, 06:50 PM
    The only reason Abedin, Mills, Pagliano are not charged with process crimes is because Comey ; who should be indicted himself ;never bothered to investigate.
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    #109

    Jan 28, 2019, 11:44 AM
    So say you.

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