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    Jan 21, 2017, 06:58 AM
    If workers want to organize in the private sector then go for it . As I already stated ,the idea of a public service union is one of the most corrupt systems introduced into the country . When government employees strike ,or do any other job action they are acting against the taxpayers ;not some company boss .FDR called the whole notion of a labor action by government employees “unthinkable and intolerable.”

    Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that "under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government."
    Franklin D. Roosevelt: Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service
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    Jan 21, 2017, 08:27 AM
    Boy these discussions get muddled fast since this is about the rich guy president with no governing experience gathering other rich guys with little expertise and experience in fields they are appointed/nominated to run.
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    Jan 21, 2017, 09:41 AM
    No experience at what ? You mean that they don't have the requisite experience that the left elitists think they should have . I disapprove of about half of his nominees ;mostly the Wall Streeters who so frequent Democrat Administrations . Betsy DeVos is not one of them .
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    Jan 21, 2017, 02:12 PM
    Here is the system you are trying to preserve . Shame !

    Report: Stagnant City Schools Are Failing Minorities | Data Mine | US News
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    Jan 21, 2017, 02:25 PM
    According to your link;

    The report's authors urged city leaders to begin addressing what they said was the most pressing issue underlying most of the disparities outlined in the report: within-district funding inequities and access to quality teachers.

    "Rather than be distracted by dogfights over Common Core, testing, choice, teacher evaluations, charter schools and other policy debates, our city school system leaders need to aggressively hunt for and be open to new solutions, and respond quickly and meaningfully to shifting demographics and other challenges," Lake added.
    Lack of money... an old story!
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    Jan 21, 2017, 02:36 PM
    the schools are funded at levels that they should have gold tiles on the floors . The funding is wasted on bureaucrats . Give parents a choice . Charters work .
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    Jan 21, 2017, 03:01 PM
    What of the children that cannot get into the charter schools? You still have to account for them.

    Under-funded Schools | Dollars & Sense

    Schools in wealthy districts have lots of resources; those in poor school districts have far fewer. In Hawaii, the whole state is a single school district and only 2% of funding comes from local sources, so there are very minor differences in resources for school children.
    Public School Funding Unequal: State and Local School Finance Systems Perpetuate Per-Student Spending Disparities | The Huffington Post

    The study’s authors, Rutgers professor Bruce Baker and NYU associate professor Sean Corcoran, identify six states — Illinois, Texas, New York, Pennsylvania, Missouri and North Carolina — where combined state and local revenues and school resources are considerably lower in higher-poverty districts than they are in lower-poverty districts.
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    Jan 21, 2017, 04:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I disapprove of about half of his nominees ;mostly the Wall Streeters who so frequent Democrat Administrations . Betsy DeVos is not one of them .
    You approve of Betsy DeVos yet conveniently omit that she is a member a fundamentalist Christian denomination holding that "all scientific theories be subject to Scripture".

    Is that who you support to be the head of the Education Department? An individual who believes the Bible should determine the truth of science? Seriously?

    DeVos was asked about this belief. She failed to reply.
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    Jan 21, 2017, 04:33 PM
    I believe in Art 6 Sec 3 of the Constitution.

    Did DeVos impose her religious values on the education system in Michigan ? No and she won't on the national level .It is a red herring . What I find astounding is that in 2017 we still deny parents to exercise their educational choice for their children. As a person with the means ,if the school my child underperformed she would've been out of there . Poor parents don't have that option unless the district itself gives them the choice of either public charters ,or giving the parents vouchers ;their share of the educational funds .

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