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Mar 25, 2018, 05:52 PM
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Okay Tom, what's your solution to gun violence and mass shootings? Given the system failed to stop the Parkland shooter, and you say that was a one off, what of the bigger problem?
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Mar 25, 2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
banning them did not stop their use in crime
Many of them are used in suicides and family violence situations, there will undoubtedly still be a black market that criminals use and the only way to stop that is for manufacturers to be involved in the registration process so every weapon is registered and its path to owner is recorded.
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Mar 26, 2018, 02:06 PM
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Why is it that in so many mass shooting tragedies the intelligence agencies are always backhandedly connected to either the shooter or his family ? A motion filed by Omar(the Orlando 'Pulse 'club shooter ) Mateen's wife, seeking to dismiss the charges, reveal that the FBI just admitted that Omar's father, Seddique, worked with the FBI as an informant for 11 years (2005-16) & himself was under investigation for sending $$ to Afghanistan & Turkey.
Noor Salman's lawyers say FBI hid these key facts until now out of embarrassment: it was due to FBI's close relationship w/Mateen's father that they didn't arrest Mateen when they investigated him in 2013.
DOJ prosecutors got caught lying about a key point in the case in that the FBI knew that the statement they coerced Mateen's wife into signing was false. The case against Mateen's wife is falling apart and she'll likely walk even though she cased the club out and drove him to the club.
This is just one of many examples where existing laws failed to prevent tragedy .
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Mar 26, 2018, 02:14 PM
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Makes you want to move to Australia and raise kangaroos!
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Mar 26, 2018, 03:54 PM
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makes you wonder about the utility of new laws if the top law enforcement and intel agencies keep badly blowing it and getting it wrong .
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Mar 26, 2018, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
makes you wonder about the utility of new laws if the top law enforcement and intel agencies keep badly blowing it and getting it wrong .
Do you think they are blowing it or deliberately flouting it to gain some advantage
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Mar 26, 2018, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Makes you want to move to Australia and raise kangaroos!
You could corner the market, Tal, but you would have to learn to build some big fences and be willing to spend your life mending them. I would be betting you know nothing about kangaroos
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Mar 27, 2018, 06:50 AM
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Forget the fences, Let 'em forage like they been doing. They've been doing great on their own, so what's to know?
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Mar 27, 2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Forget the fences, Let 'em forage like they been doing. They've been doing great on their own, so what's to know?
They don't stay in one spot and unlike cattle they travel quickly, they can leap fences, they can be aggressive
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Apr 6, 2018, 01:26 PM
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' common sense ' knife control ?
The delivery of knives bought online to private addresses is to be banned under a package of measures to tackle knife crime to be announced by the home secretary, Amber Rudd.Knives bought online will in future have to be collected in person, with retailers responsible for checking that all buyers are 18 or older. New powers are also proposed for the police to seize banned weapons such as zombie knives, knuckledusters and throwing stars if they are found in someone’s home, and to arrest those involved.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...al-knife-crime
Pry my zombie knife from my cold dead fingers.
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Apr 8, 2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
' common sense ' knife control ?
Pry my zombie knife from my cold dead fingers.
Very likely
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Apr 8, 2018, 03:38 PM
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Apr 8, 2018, 04:22 PM
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I'll remember that on my next visit to London, I won't be able to open carry my machette
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Apr 9, 2018, 11:46 AM
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What's next banning ROCKS? The damned loonies are renting vehicles to run people over. More bang for the buck.
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Apr 9, 2018, 01:59 PM
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The mayor of Londonstan is indeed a loony .
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Apr 9, 2018, 02:33 PM
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They would solve the problem by banning Muslims, but that isn't likely any time soon
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