More in the subject that Psaki tells us what Quid really meant

I don't recall him running on the proposition that he wanted to make "historic " and "fundamental " changes to the economy . But here it is in yesterday's presser


And again, as Speaker Pelosi alluded to this morning — or said this morning, this is really the point where decisions need to be made, choices need to be made.

The President’s preference is the same as the Speaker’s preference. We — he proposed a $3.5 trillion package. He proposed a broad range of initiatives that will lower costs for the American people, whether it’s childcare, eldercare, college, invest in the climate. And no matter how you cut it though, his view is we can still do something historic and that will fundamentally change — change the economy for the American people.
Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, October 12, 2021 | The White House

Another Trojan Horse Democrat parading as a center moderate while his gut instincts are radical lefty progressive .
My guess is that his "fundamental changes " are out of the Saul Alinsky playbook aka you can't "build it back better " without destroying it firsts .

And Treasury Sec Yellen explained that monitoring ALL bank transactions over $600 is intended to prevent billionaire tax fraud Huh ?

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invest in the climate

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That one made me laugh. It is the arrogance of man to think we can "invest in the climate". It's also the trend among liberal dems to do away with the idea of taking money from citizens by force of law and spending it on whatever. It's now called "investing". Sounds much nicer, doesn't it?

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That's an opinion, but it has no connection with Genesis 3. You never even made reference to Genesis 3 which certainly never says or even implies that.

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Of course it says that. The universe totally changed, turned topsy-turvy. Weeds grew in the fields, hate for others was born, mosquitos and spiders bit other living creatures and caused pain and illness and even DEATH, women suffered during childbirth, and men had to WORK!

It does not say, as you alleged, that binary stopped. Period. If it did, you would quote it. You don’t because it doesn’t. End of story. You have allowed your social beliefs to dominate your faith.

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It does not say, as you alleged, that binary stopped. Period. If it did, you would quote it. You don’t because it doesn’t. End of story. You have allowed your social beliefs to dominate your faith.

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Literalist! Read between the lines. It doesn't say mosquitoes spread malaria and people die. It doesn't say don't drink bleach. It doesn't say lightning might be dangerous. It doesn't say having XY chromosomes means the person is male; it just means the person very likely had male body parts at birth.
https://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-g...d%20University

After the Fall, the universe opened up to unlimited possibilities.

It..does..not..say..that..anywhere..in..the..Bible .. or.. even.. imply.. it.

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It..does..not..say..that..anywhere..in..the..Bible .. or.. even.. imply.. it.

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So why do bad things happen and imperfect things exist?

That's a completely different subject. You are now asking about bad things and imperfections. I think you have a valid point there, but you were trying to use the fall of man to somehow make TG a wonderful condition. That's what I was saying you cannot do with Genesis 3.

Perhaps we have arrived at an agreement.

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That's a completely different subject. You are now asking about bad things and imperfections. I think you have a valid point there, but you were trying to use the fall of man to somehow make TG a wonderful condition. That's what I was saying you cannot do with Genesis 3.

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TG is NOT a wonderful condition! It's horrible to look like one gender but every part of your being is the opposite gender.

And what happened to binary? There is no more strict binary in the animal, insect, and even plant communities.

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It..does..not..say..that..anywhere..in..the..Bible .. or.. even.. imply.. it.

So why do bad things happen and imperfect things exist?

Sh=t happens .. . Yawn

Well, we agree then that TG is a aberration.

Nothing has happened to binary. Are some individuals sadly, for various reasons, confused as to their identity or purpose? Yes.

Bad things happens because of the introduction of sin into the world. "The wages of sin is death."

I think transformers are either confused and need mental intervention or have biological defects that need treatment .

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Well, we agree then that TG is a aberration.

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Being lefthanded is an aberration. Having eyes that are two different colors is an aberration. Being born with a cleft palate is an aberration.

And aberrations often must be dealt with. How would you handle things if your son or grandson says he's not male?

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have biological defects that need treatment .

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And that's exactly what happens. It begins with gender counseling

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And it must be dealt with. How would you handle things if your son or grandson says he's not male?

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The same way I would approach him thinking he is 50 years old, or thinking he is a dog, or thinking he is a martian. It begins by refusing to go along with his plainly wrong idea. Counseling? Sure. Love and continued acceptance as my son? Absolutely. But never pretend that there is anything normal about his feelings. And certainly not a hint that Genesis 3 somehow affirms his feelings.

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It begins with with gender counseling

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And there's the potential problem.

And if gender counseling (that includes or leads to a genetic/chromosome examination) affirms he is truly female, then what will you do?

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And certainly not a hint that Genesis 3 somehow affirms his feelings.

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EVERYTHING in Genesis 3 affirms his feelings!

I'm out of this tedious discussion Let mw know when the subject returns to Quid policies .

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I'm out of this tedious discussion Let mw know when the subject returns to Quid policies .

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Go for it! (And thanks for bumping along on the sideroad.)

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And if gender counseling (that includes or leads to a genetic/chromosome examination) affirms he is truly female, then what will you do?

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And if species counseling confirms he is truly a dog, or truly a martian? One is about as preposterous as the other.

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EVERYTHING in Genesis 3 affirms his feelings!

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Exactly what? Be specific about what would confirm a man thinking he is a woman. Be specific.