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paraclete · Jun 13, 2011, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

I'll sum it up . The Palin critics have nothing . [

Tom a little too simplistic. Even if Palin was right this time although it is a twisted view of the conventional history, she still has the same ability that Bush had of speaking with both feet wedged in her mouth.

TUT317 · Jun 13, 2011, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The essential critique given is that she did not give a narrative like a college professor .She instead gave an enthusiastic ,off the cuff ,appreciative accounting that admittedly was structured to make a political point . That is used as evidence that she is "dumb" .

Hi Tom,

I am assuming you are making reference to my posts. The conclusion you are drawing about her lack of intelligence is yours. I would be appreciative if you can show me the post where I said she was dumb.

I think I said it was not unreasonable to expect a politician to be coherent.

Tut

tomder55 · Jun 13, 2011, 05:55 AM

TUT you aren't the only one who responded . That she doesn't speak eligantly ;she's guilty as charged . It is a meaningless assertion that has nothing to do with intelligence.

Clete. Before he became President GW Bush was a much better and more relaxed public speaker . He became guarded in his replies because he was constantly put on the defensive by the braying pack of jackels of the press corps. They have now shifted their focus on their next victim.

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2011, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by TUT317

I think I said it was not unreasonable to expect a politician to be coherent.

Without a teleprompter.

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2011, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Without a teleprompter.

or notes written on their hand.

talaniman · Jun 13, 2011, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55
I'll sum it up . The Palin critics have nothing .

She is a quitter, but who wouldn't be if there was more money to make. And less hassle. I doubt she could afford a mansion in Arizona, or fueling a huge bus for family vacation, on a Governors salary. She may not know much about anything else, but the woman can count, and that's a fact.

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2011, 09:46 AM

So she quit her job as governor and is still immensely successful. Why is everyone dumping on such a successful woman? Seems rather sexist to me.

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2011, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

She is a quitter, but who wouldn't be if there was more money to make. And less hassle. I doubt she could afford a mansion in Arizona, or fueling a huge bus for family vacation, on a Governors salary. She may not know much about anything else, but the woman can count, and thats a fact.

Yup, at the first opportunity at making more money she'll bail. It's not about public service to her, it's about the almighty dollar.

tomder55 · Jun 13, 2011, 09:51 AM

Lol The President stayed in the Senate long enough to take a bathroom break. Had he gone through a 10th of the media scrutiny that Palin has endured perhaps he wouldn't be President .

excon · Jun 13, 2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Had he gone through a 10th of the media scrutiny that Palin has endured perhaps he wouldn't be President .

Hello again, tom:

Bwa, ha ha ha ha...

excon

talaniman · Jun 13, 2011, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

So she quit her job as governor and is still immensely successful. Why is everyone dumping on such a successful woman? Seems rather sexist to me.

There is nothing sexist about disagreeing with any one that runs their mouth to the public in front of a TV camera, or microphone. Put it in the public, money or no money, some will agree, some won't. Being successful, doesn't make you right, or wrong for that matter. Nor does your gender.

excon · Jun 13, 2011, 10:13 AM

Hello again,

Of course, there ARE 57 states... I have historical experts who say so...

excon

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2011, 10:25 AM

talaniman, she's been dumped on from the time she got the VP nod for everything from not aborting Trig, to not being a stay-at-home mom, her wardrobe, looks, figure, you name it, by the very people that allege to support women. You called her a quitter, which has NOTHING to do with her opinions. She's successful in spite of everyone's attempts to destroy her, and I'd say that makes he pretty smart and an excellent example for women.

excon · Jun 13, 2011, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

She's successful in spite of everyone's attempts to destroy her, and I'd say that makes he pretty smart and an excellent example for women.

Hello again, Steve:

She's treated like a messiah by her followers.. You and tom are a perfect example of that. You support her NO MATTER what. Those are the people who buy her books, pay to hear her speak, see her movies, and watch her on TV. Because she capitalizes on them doesn't make her smart. It makes her a businesswoman.

I APPLAUD her business acumen. I'm proud that she's an accomplished woman. I'm THRILLED she had Trig. But, she doesn't know sh*t about this country or the world, and doesn't want to learn, either, because it'll make her an elite. In fact, if she KNEW stuff, her constituency would ABANDON her. They LIKE her because she's dumb. Nobody who KNOWS anything would ever buy her stuff.

excon

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2011, 10:59 AM

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2011, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by excon

She's treated like a messiah by her followers.. You and tom are a perfect example of that. You support her NO MATTER what. Those are the people who buy her books, pay to hear her speak, see her movies, and watch her on TV. Because she capitalizes on them doesn't make her smart. It makes her a businesswoman.

I've never treated her like a messiah, don't believe tom has either. I don't want her to run for prez, and I'm a little tired of her and the obsessive coverage quite frankly. The media and her other detractors are far more obsessed than any of her supporters could ever be as their stalking her during her bus trip and the feeding frenzy over her emails show. But the point of this thread is Palin's stupidity over a comment in which she was vindicated. Are you done with it or do you guys still feel the need to change the subject and trash her for other reasons?

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I've never treated her like a messiah, don't believe tom has either. I don't want her to run for prez, and I'm a little tired of her and the obsessive coverage quite frankly. The media and her other detractors are far more obsessed than any of her supporters could ever be as their stalking her during her bus trip and the feeding frenzy over her emails show. But the point of this thread is Palin's stupidity over a comment in which she was vindicated. Are you done with it or do you guys still feel the need to change the subject and trash her for other reasons?

You always have the option to ignore this thread and move on to matters that are more important to you.

talaniman · Jun 13, 2011, 11:36 AM

You called her a quitter, which has NOTHING to do with her opinions.

You're right, nothing to do with her opinions, but she is a quitter because of her actions, and she did quit. Nothing personal, just a statement of FACT!

Wondergirl · Jun 13, 2011, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

the obsessive coverage

But she invites and enjoys the obsessive coverage.

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2011, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

But she invites and enjoys the obsessive coverage.

That's a very good point. Very similar to actors' love/hate relationship with the paparazzi. Palin needs the coverage to make more money, as do actors.