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The old Mississip.

Hello:

Now, I don't know about you, but if I built my house where it was safe, and the government decided to flood MY house instead those built where it was UNSAFE, simply because they had more MONEY or there were MORE of them, would really PISS me off. In fact, I think I'd try to stop them.

What legal justification do they have for doing these things??

excon

I don't know either, but I'm with your there. I'd be mighty pissed off too.

Its not all about money.. its political connections. If you think its not... think again...
New Orleans... their entitlement mentality... Current President watching out for his homies. Don't know the demographics of Baton Rouge and to tell you the truth I don't feel like looking them up.

Its all about pronouncing... someones going to bend over and take it... and I'd rather do it to the people that work hardest but are fairly quiet... than the people that don't but complain the most.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

New Orleans...their entitlement mentality... Current President watching out for his homies.

Hello again, smoothy:

Your racism never ceases to amaze me.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Your racism never ceases to amaze me.

excon

Really... then what did YOU call Mayor Nagan's very public comments about a CHOCOLATE New Orleans? If a white mayor had commented about HIS majority white town remaining a VANILLA city... that wouldn't have been racist?

And the Fact Mississippi was harder hit... but they didn't sit on their butts expecting it ALL to be done for them like New Orleans did, and still is.

Laziness and entitlement mentalities know no racial boundaries. Political ones... YES... racial ones... no.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Really....then what did YOU call Mayor Nagan's very public comments about a CHOCOLATE New Orleans?

Hello again, smoothy:

I didn't say you were the ONLY racist around.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I didn't say you were the ONLY racist around.

excon

Might want to look in a mirror then. Because you are likely more of a racist than I am.

I hate lazy people that whine about being entitled to everything but won't get off their duffs to do anything. What color they are means nothing to me.

Are you talking about the blasted levees? Or about the opened floodgates?

There is a HUGE difference between the two, Excon.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Might want to look in a mirror then. Because you are likely more of a racist than I am.

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't doubt race played a part. But, when you TELL me instead of SHOW me, I know the answer comes from your racist heart, instead of your analytical brain.

excon

PS> Are you now DENYING that you're a racist?? It's only LAZY people who WHINE that you dislike?? Then who are the HOMIES you were referring to?? Dude! At least the Aryan Nation ADMITS they're racist. What's holding you back?

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Are you talking about the blasted levees? Or about the opened floodgates? There is a HUGE difference between the two,

Hello Synn:

I'm talking about the decision by the government to open the floodgates. If the government blasted the levees, then I'm talking about that too.

Tell me what I'm missing.

excon

They had no choice . Yeah it sucks but there are worse things than some farms getting washed out . There are many refineries in the path of a flooded Mississippi that they could not allow to get innundated with flood waters... and yes it would be unacceptable to have New Orleans flood again.

Here's a tangent... what do you think is worse for the Gulf... the BP spill which the Gulf seems to be self cleaning of very nicely... or the toxic stew of industrial and agricultural chemicals about to be washed into the Gulf from the Mississippi River ?

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Are you talking about the blasted levees? Or about the opened floodgates?

There is a HUGE difference between the two, excon.

I am assuming the opened floodgates from my own perspective. I understand the reasoning on the blasted levi part at least. There breach is imminent... and picking where the breach happens can limit damage locally.

The floodgates are purely screwing one group to the benefit of another.

The blasting:

Mississippi River flooding: After levee blast, threat shifts to Memphis - CSMonitor.com

The floodgates:

New Flood Gates Open In Louisiana, River Cresting In Vicksburg, Mississippi : The Two-Way : NPR

Here's the thing: Where it was blasted, I would be upset and talking to a lawyer. Suing the government will be pretty tough, though.

Where they opened the gates--those people have KNOWN, for THIRTY EIGHT YEARS, that their property has the potential of being flooded. They got letters from the Army Corps of Engineers reminding them of it, too. Those people have ALWAYS known that they could be flooded at any time to alleviate pressure on the river. To hell with those people whining. They have NO REASON to whine. They have the Same whine as the people that built lower than sea level in Nawlins and cried because they flooded. If you live on a flood plain--whether normal or directed--you can't whine when you're flooded.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't doubt race played a part. But, when you TELL me instead of SHOW me, I know the answer comes from your racist heart, instead of your analytical brain.

excon

PS> Are you now DENYING that you're a racist??? It's only LAZY people who WHINE that you dislike??? Then who are the HOMIES you were referring to??? Dude! At least the Aryan Nation ADMITS they're racist. What's holding you back?

Lazy people aren't a race. If they were they would be extinct.

When YOU hear lazy... you assume Blacks right away. When I hear lazy... I think white trash in trailers with couches on the front porch waiting for the welfare check to go buy more beer as a first thought.

Obama has been playing the race card as well as class warfare since he entered the political arena. Not even the Democrats deny that.

And the Obama Administration has systematically punished those who don't kiss their feet. And they got caught again recently barring a Boston Newspaper from press conferences because they gave Mitt Romney a more prominent headline.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

The blasting:

Mississippi River flooding: After levee blast, threat shifts to Memphis - CSMonitor.com

The floodgates:

New Flood Gates Open In Louisiana, River Cresting In Vicksburg, Mississippi : The Two-Way : NPR

Here's the thing: Where it was blasted, I would be upset and talking to a lawyer. Suing the government will be pretty tough, though.

Where they opened the gates--those people have KNOWN, for THIRTY EIGHT YEARS, that their property has the potential of being flooded. They got letters from the Army Corps of Engineers reminding them of it, too. Those people have ALWAYS known that they could be flooded at any time to alleviate pressure on the river. To hell with those people whining. They have NO REASON to whine. They have the EXACT same whine as the people that built lower than sea level in Nawlins and cried because they flooded. If you live on a flood plain--whether normal or directed--you can't whine when you're flooded.

I agree except the fact... that is part of the bread basket... and its all pretty flat down there. It's not like there are a lot of hills you can put everything on. And you can't drive hundreds of miles a day to tend a farm.

But its like... we flood thousands of acres of rural peoples homes businesses and farms to save a few square miles of city dwellers apartments and businesses.

Seems pretty lopsided and politically driven to me. BUT yeah... now matter how you slice it... someone is getting screwed. There is no everybody wins choice that could be made. And making no choice still means someone gets screwed.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

They had no choice . Yeah it sucks but there are worse things than some farms getting washed out .

Hello tom:

I don't doubt the decision was made for the "greater good". But, it sounds so damn socialistic - especially coming from somebody like you. You DID want the banks to fail, didn't you?

I'll bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was YOUR house.

excon

I would not build a house on a flood plain. Nothing socialistic about this .Governments have to make decisions for the common defense all the time.

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Governments have to make decisions for the common defense all the time.

I like how you omitted "greater good" and replaced it with 'defense'. ;)

/shrug---that was the whole POINT of the floodgates.

This way, a couple hundred people are in a disaster zone rather than a couple thousand.

Makes sense to me. Especially since they already KNEW that that was the choice that would be made, via those letters they were sent every year.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I like how you omitted "greater good" and replaced it with 'defense'. ;)

Yes it was intentional because the common defense is in the Constitution.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Makes sense to me.

Hello again, Synn:

Ok, I'm convinced...

excon