Yeah I know.. they live in a collective .

But that narrative doesn't really hold up does it ? They are the tools of the queen .They live and die for the queen .They are slave to the queen . So they aren't really working for the colony perse... They do the bidding of the queen... but then again ,such autocracy or absolute rule is the model that the communist nations have emulated also.
Ants also have a rigid caste system . The ant carrying that boulder has no choice but to do the job the ant was born to do .

Are you telling me that is the system you would prefer ?


BTW ,if there are 2 competing ant hills ,how do they resolve their difference?

Always the reference to a socialist point of view, what you have the ability to do is to respond according to your society norms, very primitave but there you have it

I'm not the one who brought up the ant colony model .

.. they live in a collective .
As do we humans, just not as organized
But that narrative doesn't really hold up does it ? They are the tools of the queen .They live and die for the queen .They are slave to the queen . So they aren't really working for the colony parse... They do the bidding of the queen...
They live for survival, they do not do the queens bidding because she gives no orders. They already know what to do and have defined roles that they perform for the good of the collective. For their own good, their survival. They are very efficient, and no one goes hungry
But then again ,such autocracy or absolute rule is the model that the communist nations have emulated also.
There is no rule, just an orderly way to survive.
Ants also have a rigid caste system . The ant carrying that boulder has no choice but to do the job the ant was born to do
They do not argue, revolt, or ask for a raise. They all share the same rewards, from the same sacrifice. From the same effort. Its there way. And they have it down pat.

Are you telling me that is the system you would prefer ?
Efficient, effective, equal, simple, and defined. the goal, to survive and thrive.

BTW ,if there are 2 competing ant hills ,how do they resolve their difference?
The strong survive, the loser is enslaved, or eaten. Just like us humans.

My point though Tom, is that humans have agendas that don't jibe with the whole "collective" surviving, and thriving. Though we have many social models to examine, all of which have merit, be they communism, or democracy, they few reap artificial financial benefit, and the many provide those benefits, and the few manipulate those benefits, and the many suffer for it with less.

There is no difference between communism, and democracy, or America, and Africa. They all share the same self promotion when co operation is required. Until we are like the ant, and cooperate, then the collective cannot survive. As the collective (the world), grows closer together, there has to be even more cooperation, not less.

I think America is a unique opportunity to show the world how a collective of diverse societies can thrive and survive through mutual cooperation, shared sacrifice, and shared reward for the common good. It won't happen sacrificing the many, for the few, but through very honest communications, to move everyone forward.

Fighting over whose hill is the best, Laffer, or Keysnian, Communism, or Democracy, is a conflict for fools since we can use them both as needed, and unlike the Ant, forge a collective where we can be productive, and all can SHARE the work, and the rewards. I admit, human communications is messy, but we have to keep talking honestly. Not only do we have a tremendous amount of work to do, but have even more changes to make.

Then we have the elephant in the room, electing leaders to do our bidding, but who are payrolled by special interests, who don't care if you have a job or a house, or anything else, as long as they can get more money, and more power. The entitled who think they know best for you. Republicans!!

Are you telling me that is the system you would prefer ?
Efficient, effective, equal, simple, and defined. the goal, to survive and thrive.

Yeah and Mussolini made the trains run on time. Liberty is messy .

So is a Whopper with everything on it. But we can share it can't we if that's all we have?

My point is that I can not see a system that doesn't work for everyone, especially those that can't work. Sorry, that's what republicans represent to me. Not that democrats are much better mind you, but I can see where the common ground between us is in the middle, neither all democrat, or all republican, someone who won't say crap to get elected. But is ready to talk, listen, and compromise. OBAMA!! Hey that seems to be all we got right now!

The train runs on time in Dallas, but they keep raising the rates. Mussolini ran his trains well, but his agenda sucked!