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    #161

    Mar 16, 2019, 02:07 PM
    Takes time to do a good thorough investigation. How long did Ken Starr take? Or the house of representatives on Hillary?
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    #162

    Mar 16, 2019, 03:51 PM
    Investigations are normally started with evidence of wrong doing. Hatred of Trump is not sufficient grounds to start an investigation.
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    #163

    Mar 16, 2019, 04:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    there is nobody left working in Muller's team .What is taking him so long ?
    That might be the reason
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    Mar 16, 2019, 04:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Investigations are normally started with evidence of wrong doing. Hatred of Trump is not sufficient grounds to start an investigation.
    There is ENOUGH evidence to investigate~ I mean who takes the word of a LYING, cheating DUFUS at face value without verify ALL he has said? His history alone is reason to run for a grain of salt, and buy in bulk!

    Sorry my friend, but be patient and wait for the FACTS to reveal themselves, and you won't have to trust MY word on the EVIDENCE.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Investigations are normally started with evidence of wrong doing. Hatred of Trump is not sufficient grounds to start an investigation.
    There is ENOUGH evidence to investigate~ I mean who takes the word of a LYING, cheating DUFUS at face value without verify ALL he has said? His history alone is reason to run for a grain of salt, and buy in bulk!

    Sorry my friend, but be patient and wait for the FACTS to reveal themselves, and you won't have to trust MY word on the EVIDENCE.
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    #165

    Mar 16, 2019, 05:02 PM
    There is ENOUGH evidence to investigate~ I mean who takes the word of a LYING, cheating DUFUS at face value without verify ALL he has said? His history alone is reason to run for a grain of salt, and buy in bulk!
    Evidence of what? And please don't tell me about what Manafort, et al did. There is certainly no evidence of Russian collusion.
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    #166

    Mar 16, 2019, 05:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Evidence of what? And please don't tell me about what Manafort, et al did. There is certainly no evidence of Russian collusion.
    We know for fact he lies and feeds his base, but so far the evidence is everybody around his campaign is convicted and cooperating with a FEDERAL investigation after being tied to and CONVICTED, of lying and cheating the US. That leads to his transition team who has been convicted of LYING! That's enough to keep digging and see who lies and who doesn't!

    You may be happy with NO COLLUSION, but do you really mind if that's verified? Why?
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    #167

    Mar 16, 2019, 05:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    You may be happy with NO COLLUSION, but do you really mind if that's verified? Why?
    Just because someone had a mind fart doesn't mean you launch an investigation
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    #168

    Mar 16, 2019, 05:59 PM
    If you have been chastised by the government, committed bankruptcy, cannot get a loan from your state and country banks, then you really should be looked deeper into as a matter of good business.. It's called good business, and essential to truth and FACTS! Only a FOOL takes the word of a lying cheating bully, without VERIFICATION.

    The same standard applies to EVERYBODY, even if the right wingers are giddy about what they have accomplished!

    Just saying!
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    #169

    Mar 16, 2019, 06:17 PM
    We know for fact he lies and feeds his base, but so far the evidence is everybody around his campaign is convicted and cooperating with a FEDERAL investigation after being tied to and CONVICTED, of lying and cheating the US. That leads to his transition team who has been convicted of LYING! That's enough to keep digging and see who lies and who doesn't!
    If you want to convict him of lying, you need to try your beloved President Obama and almost-President Hillary Clinton. They lied as much as Trump.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome. "I don't like him, so he must be guilty of something."
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    #170

    Mar 17, 2019, 10:07 AM
    I will admit the dufus has energized the dems. Would you have voted for him if you knew he was under investigation by the FBI?
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    #171

    Mar 17, 2019, 10:44 AM
    They used the dossier and Crossfire Hurricane as a pretext to spy on his campaign . The investigation came later as the Strzok-Page "insurance policy " ...the text sent from Strzok to Page in August 2016 which read: “I want to believe the path you threw out in Andy’s [McCabe's] office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take the risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”
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    #172

    Mar 17, 2019, 11:50 AM
    I will admit the dufus has energized the dems. Would you have voted for him if you knew he was under investigation by the FBI?
    You voted for HC all the while knowing she was the subject of an FBI investigation and was, as it turned out, not charged with a crime due to the influence of the Obama DOJ. And you want to question those who voted for Trump?? Good grief.
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    #173

    Mar 17, 2019, 02:12 PM
    I question the outcomes given the dufus we have and his embarrassing performance on the world stage, and at home, and the distinct possibility of his corruption, nepotism, self enrichment and all those criminals associated with him going to jail, or singing like birds to the Feds and State prosecutors.

    Also strange the dems got hacked, local voting rolls were hacked, but Hillary was not. Hmmm, maybe we need to copy HER security practices.
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    #174

    Mar 17, 2019, 02:23 PM
    I will just give you the same answer as before. "You voted for HC all the while knowing she was the subject of an FBI investigation and was, as it turned out, not charged with a crime due to the influence of the Obama DOJ. And you want to question those who voted for Trump?? Good grief."
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    #175

    Mar 17, 2019, 03:21 PM
    You're right. Hillary is gone and the dufus is the prez and under investigation. Works for me.
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    #176

    Mar 17, 2019, 05:27 PM
    You're right. Hillary is gone and the dufus is the prez and under investigation. Works for me.
    Works for me, too, especially the "Hillary is gone" part. Works for all of us.
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    #177

    Mar 18, 2019, 05:22 AM
    If you're okay with the dufus manifesto.
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    #178

    Mar 18, 2019, 03:41 PM
    Any time I get dissatisfied with Trump, I just look at the economy, the federal courts, and HC and Obama, and I suddenly feel a lot better about things.
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    #179

    Mar 18, 2019, 04:24 PM
    That explains why you keep bring them up. I find it fascinating that you and the loony white supremacists support the same guy.
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    #180

    Mar 18, 2019, 05:23 PM
    And the black nationalists supported Obama, but that didn't seem to stop you from supporting him. Why? Because we both have enough sense to know that both black and white nationalists are a tremendously small percentage of the country.

    I can honestly say I do not know a single white nationalist. Not one. They must all live in Texas.

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