AND YET there have been no charges against anyone in the Trump campaign ,or Trump himself that suggest there was any involvement by the Trump campaign in Russian' interference in the election'.
Do the Justice Department and the FBI still stand behind their representation in their FISA applications, and their publicly announced suspicion to Congressional investigators in March 2017 ,that the Trump campaign coordinated in Russia’s cyber operations ?
If they do not continue to stand behind their representations to the court ,the public ,and in Congressional testimony , have they corrected the record with the FISC or the House Intelligence Committee (there has not been any public retraction)?
If they do stand behind their representation, how do they square that position with the indictments filed by Mueller, which have charged no Trump-Russia conspiracy, and which indicate there was no Trump-Russia conspiracy?
We have known since Feb. last year ,after the troll farm indictments that there was no Trump campaign involvement . The latest Stone indictment confirms that. If the Trump team was involved then they would not have gone to such lengths to try to find out from 3rd party sources what Wilki was planning to release .

Look ,all these suspicions were needed to be corroborated BEFORE a FISA application was filed . That is why a FISA application is called a verified application. Unlike other proceedings , the only due process anyone gets ,because the application is classified and there are no lawyers to challenge it ,is that the information brought before the court is impeccable . What the Obama FBI did was turn a FISA warrant into a general fishing expedition warrant .
Devin Nunez ,ranking Republican on the House Intel Committee asked this question week How is it that we are investigating Roger Stone and not Bruce Ohr's testimony that he met with Andrew Weissmann (former Dept Justice attorney and currently Mueller's pit bull) to inform him early in the game that the Steele dossier was the product of a DNC dirty trick ? The fact is that the dossier was the product of the Evita campaign ,and that high ranking members of the Justice Dept knew that ;and did NOT disclose that to the FISA court during the applications.
There should be no special council investigation unless there is a conflict of interest . So why then was Mueller allowed to appoint an assistant who was clearly conflicted ? Although the American people deserve this information ;I'm sure it will be covered up in the final Mueller report .

You've got to stop reading those Russian hackers putting out this stuff on phony websites, tomder.

show me the charge .Mueller hasn't even charged the obvious ones who had business dealings with Russians or Russian interests with crimes related to interference in the election. He got them for charges that everyone knew about years before the campaign was conceived .He made charges against Russian pajama boys that will never go to court . But nobody in the Trump campaign has been charged with anything campaign related at all.

So we know it is a witch hunt, and we know where the witch is. This is theatre

It sure does look like there's no "there" there

I don't know folks, it's hard to believe that after all the indictments and convictions of dufus campaign members and Russians that dufus had no knowledge, or involvement. Who says the Mueller investigation is winding down? Or did you mean it's getting closer to his inner circle? Why does all his peeps lie about contacts with Russia? Why have they kept it from law enforcement AND the intel community?

Obviously after two years we know not to trust anything that the dufus or his sycophants say without GREAT meticulous scrutiny, or verification. Don't we?

Unlike the famous truth tellers, Clinton and Obama?

The dufus is in a class all by himself with his lying.

I'll say it again, and you cannot refute it. When Trump lies repeatedly about the cause of a terrorist attack that results in the deaths of 4 Americans, and does so in what certainly, to any reasonable person, appeared to be an attempt to gain his own reelection, then you come talk to me about who is in a class by himself.

When Trump lies repeatedly about drugs and rapists and gangs and sex traffickers crossing the southern border unimpeded, and says that as an attempt to gain his own election AND reelection, then you come talk to me about who is in a class by himself.

So you are saying that drugs, rapists, gang members, and sex traffickers are not crossing the southern border largely unimpeded?

Certainly not in the numbers the dufus sites, not even close, not historically nor justifies his emergency for a wall that stops no one but women and children which is the majority of migrants.

How many did you count?

Zero, since I am not counting. How many did you count? For that matter, how would anyone be able to get an accurate count?

At any rate, the post alleged these things were not happening. Plainly they are.

I was using JL's words as I flipped the coin to a different pov.
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"Plainly they are" -- at the Port of Philadelphia, at O'Hare Airport, across the northern border from Canada.

This report was in todays news .


https://nypost.com/2019/02/16/mexico...ruining-lives/

Hmmm. So drugs ARE coming across the border. Lots of them.

And this is something you are unaware of, but it is those blasted mule migrants (illegals) who are carrying them and what will stop them a Wall but we can't call it a WALL, it must be constructed of bollards in no man's land which is a vacant space in Pelosi's head

I think someone needs to get a lot more sleep.

Yes that would be nice, any suggestions as to how to accomplish that